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08-13-2017 , 02:54 PM
it's not
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08-14-2017 , 11:07 AM
what does Luke even do?
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08-14-2017 , 11:48 AM
I have got many tickets for 5.5 tournaments instead of T$. This is such bs. They are doing whatever they want without any notice.
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08-14-2017 , 11:55 AM
Just got a text from a worried friend that they heard the first week is just phases like scoop and series actually starts 10th.
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08-14-2017 , 12:03 PM
Rip
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08-14-2017 , 01:56 PM
Don't worry guys; just got a text message from a friend that the WCOOP schedule will be online around december.
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08-14-2017 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverallin
I have got many tickets for 5.5 tournaments instead of T$. This is such bs. They are doing whatever they want without any notice.
I expect Stars to do away with all T money by years end. Considering their other changes I would have predicted this change would have been introduced about a year ago.
From a business pov I see the advantages but I also see the negatives which will be highlighted in certain situations.

Like most things balance is the answer.
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08-14-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Just got a text from a worried friend that they heard the first week is just phases like scoop and series actually starts 10th.
If this is the case, when Luke said the dates were from the 3rd to the 24th, im going to lose my ****.
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08-14-2017 , 07:17 PM
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If this is the case, when Luke said the dates were from the 3rd to the 24th, im going to lose my ****.
I would surprised if this is not true given how they operate these days.
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08-14-2017 , 08:26 PM
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what does Luke even do?
Probably forgot a password and can't login.
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08-15-2017 , 01:27 AM
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Just got a text from a worried friend that they heard the first week is just phases like scoop and series actually starts 10th.
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08-15-2017 , 01:34 AM
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what does Luke even do?


he doesnt 'lose control' thats for sure PokerStars MTT ThreadPokerStars MTT ThreadPokerStars MTT ThreadPokerStars MTT ThreadPokerStars MTT ThreadPokerStars MTT Thread
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08-15-2017 , 05:17 AM
Wcoop has been 3 weeks for the past years, I'd imagine if there's a phase tournament leading up to it it'll start 27th or 28th of august.
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08-15-2017 , 05:25 AM
Tbf that's what happened with scoop. As in they added one extra week ahead of when scoop normally ran
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08-15-2017 , 08:05 AM
Pokerstars just replied to Sam Grafton's tweet about WCOOP confirming full schedule starts 3rd Sept with non-phase events daily.
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08-15-2017 , 12:05 PM
Hey everyone,

Below is a piece I wrote for the PokerStars Blog. The goal was to inform you of the changes to WCOOP before it goes live in the client so you don't run into any big surprises.

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WCOOP 2017 is fast approaching, running from September 3rd-26th. Although the Tournaments Team is buckled down in order to get it ready for you, I thought I'd take some time to provide insight into changes we're making for this year's series.

Get Low
The single biggest change in this year's WCOOP is the addition of a Low tier. This will replace last year's mini-WCOOP, but make no mistake; it is not a companion series! With over $11,000,000 guaranteed, WCOOP Low is the real deal. Featuring buy-ins approximately 1/20th the size of their High counterparts, Low events will run 24 hours after High events (with a couple notable exceptions). We feel WCOOP Low will offer something special to our players whose bankroll may not support playing the High events.

Satellites
In SCOOP 2017, we made some changes to satellites, typically awarding satellite winners with tickets. This allowed players to win a satellite, unregister from the target tournament, and re-join with a ticket at any point during late registration. While we like to offer players as much flexibility as possible, this system created operational stress and confusion among players. During the series, we received numerous requests to exchange tickets, and after the series we also received similar requests from players with tickets that couldn't be used anywhere. For this reason, satellites in WCOOP 2017 will be must-play. This means that if you win a satellite to a WCOOP event, you will be required to play from the start (if it hasn't started already). Subsequent wins will be credited in T$. Additionally, a few select events will not allow players to win more than one seat. This information will be available in all satellite tournament lobbies.

Testing Grounds
Although we typically don't change the formula for our tournament series, they provide a great opportunity to try new formats. Series are meant to identify the best of the best, and what better way to do so than with a brand new format? This year, we'll offer a unique HORSE Phase tournament. From Monday to Friday, each Phase 1 will be one of the HORSE games: Monday will be Fixed Limit Hold'em, Tuesday will be Fixed Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, and so on. On Saturday, the final Phase 1 will be HORSE, and Phase 2 will begin later that day. To ensure that all players advancing from Phase 1 get a fair shake, each Phase 1 will play down to 10% of the field before ending, meaning the average stack advancing to Phase 2 will be the same for all games. The buy-in for the High event is $215, and the Low event will be $11, allowing players of all bankrolls to try their hand at their preferred discipline.

Structures
All new structures will make their debut in WCOOP 2017. Low events will start with 25,000 chips and High events will start with 50,000 chips, except in the case of rebuy tournaments. The reason for this change is simple: we want players to feel like they're entering a truly special tournament when they take their seat. In order to accommodate this change, new blind structures have been created. The new blind structures will provide the same deep play experience as previous *COOP series, but will have shorter levels with smaller increases. Don't be deceived by the shorter level times: these tournaments will be deep.

Odds & Ends
In addition to all of these changes, WCOOP 2017 features the best slate of promotions we've ever had for a series. We're adding over $700,000 in WCOOP tickets to Stars Rewards chests, awarding players in a new non-No Limit Hold'em Player of the Series leader board, adding a $5,200 seat to a daily satellite, and much more!

All in all, we're gearing up for the biggest WCOOP ever. We'll be ready. Will you?
Series launches on Monday. GL all!
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08-15-2017 , 12:12 PM
Well done with Low tier!
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08-15-2017 , 12:21 PM
Gg with inclusion of series. Was about time. Unsure about the 1/20 rule tho. The only proper midstakes ones will be 35s, 55s and very very few 75s/ 109s. A bit sad about that but at least it's a step

Still think the horse thing is many words used for sth that will ultimately not be what typical horse players wanna see but since I m not one of them I ll shut my face. Hope schedule overall isn't too different from what we ve seen last year, marathon really really should be in there but Obv way too late to mention if it won't be

Gl hf
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08-15-2017 , 01:18 PM
This allowed players to win a satellite, unregister from the target tournament, and re-join with a ticket at any point during late registration. While we like to offer players as much flexibility as possible, this system created operational stress and confusion among players...... This means that if you win a satellite to a WCOOP event, you will be required to play from the start (if it hasn't started already).


Who the f*** is stressed and confused with this system? Stop changing everything for the worse all the f***ing time ughhhh why do i have to play from the start? I don't want to.
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08-15-2017 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFSB
Who the f*** is stressed and confused with this system? Stop changing everything for the worse all the f***ing time ughhhh why do i have to play from the start? I don't want to.
Then don't play the satellite towards it? I think most people here agree that getting T$ for 2nd seat+ is preferred over the ticket system.
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08-15-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Gg with inclusion of series. Was about time. Unsure about the 1/20 rule tho. The only proper midstakes ones will be 35s, 55s and very very few 75s/ 109s. A bit sad about that but at least it's a step

Still think the horse thing is many words used for sth that will ultimately not be what typical horse players wanna see but since I m not one of them I ll shut my face. Hope schedule overall isn't too different from what we ve seen last year, marathon really really should be in there but Obv way too late to mention if it won't be

Gl hf
It's not meant to be a mid stakes series. It's a replacement for mini WCOOP, which did not have mid events in it. The fact there will be some this time is a bonus.
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08-15-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Then don't play the satellite towards it? I think most people here agree that getting T$ for 2nd seat+ is preferred over the ticket system.
That's not my point... I want to satellite in but also want to late reg, is that too much to ask?
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08-15-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFSB
That's not my point... I want to satellite in but also want to late reg, is that too much to ask?
Well, your first post was just whining and your second post still hasn't provided us with a solution. If they give generic tickets we're back to the old system most people disliked, if they give T$ then people aren't forced to play the event they satty for which makes satellites tougher and wcoop events get fewer people trying to actually qualify.
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08-16-2017 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ZFSB
That's not my point... I want to satellite in but also want to late reg, is that too much to ask?
stars could give the option to award tickets that auto-registers to the target tournament at the end of the target tournaments late registration, alongside the option to auto-register at the time of ticket acquirement (for the first entry, and then $T).

might get messy with pop-up windows and disclaimers but it does solve the problem. i feel like if you gain entry to a tournament via satellite you should definitely have the right to choose at which point you sit down with your starting chips.
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