I have to agree with this and I think the set rake regardless of structure is holding MTT's back.

In particular I don't like the rake on the tourneys that a player is required to satellite in to play.

The 90 euro mtt that a player must sat into is 81+9. The concept of having to sat into it to play is a method to protect current players on the site is an argument I can go along with. But when it's combined with sats being 22.50+2.50 (1 in 4 win a seat) results in rake being collected by Unibet as 81+19. This number seems that Unibet is taking care of itself.

Could we either see a rake reduction in the satellites or in the target MTT. The same thing applies to the 25 euro sat in to play weekly.

How do you alternate between identities? Sorry if off topic

You go into your profile and select the identity you want before you join a game. I believe you can create 5 new ones each day to overwrite a current one.

No worries but there is an official thread for stuff like this too .

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index203.html

I agree on this too, I think the play should be to lower the rake of the faster structure and add more tourneys of that fast structure to the lobby to rebalance the sites intake. 2% probably gets a bit low though but the point is that you pay for your average length play right?
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Any chance that we can get some 25euro sats to the Saturday Stack? Even if its just onetime prior to the tourney on a saturday, that 10euro sat just doesn't entice me.

Well, stars has 2% on hypers and they have 3min levels, the tournies I was speaking of here have 1 minute blinds. I know they're only small buyins, but unibets "keep the small guy alive" theory conflicts with raking these heavily.

Ahh ok, well these tourneys with 1 min blinds do have 10k stack aswell but I see where your coming from. I guess it ends up about the same, im just saying I don't mind the extra % to support the site (imo would still be extremely +EV tourney). I do really like that 'deep crazy' format probably one that I would play the most which is why I suggested above to change that 20:00 '10 bounty' to a 'deep crazy bounty'.

I haven't played any yet but I can only imagine they'll be a ton of fun. But they'll be a lot faster than a 3 minute structure, the 10k starting stack only delays this by about 5 minutes. To give you an idea, the 3min 3k stack gets itm at about 1k/2k blinds (42mins in) and the 1min levels will be at 200k/400k after 42 mins.

Hi guys,

I am Robin and have a passion for poker tournaments. I have been busy with changing the tournament schedule. Therefore I would love to hear your feedback and thoughts. In this way we together can build the best tournament experience possible within the Unibet features and philosophy.

I think we all agree that this needs improvement. While creating different tournaments we were used to use the same fee % just for simplicity. We will reduce all the 1 minute format games to 3% fee for now.

We can’t compare our 10k 1min blind tournaments too much with another site, where the nature of the game, the field and the players are different - even though both games will end up in the same kind of way. However we agree we need to reduce the fee % and add might add more of these events during off-peak when they are very popular.

We can’t compare our 10k 1min blind tournaments too much with another site, where the nature of the game, the field and the players are different - even though both games will end up in the same kind of way. However we agree we need to reduce the fee % and add might add more of these events during off-peak when they are very popular.


- Thanks for the suggestion, we will consider this.
- We're going to change the filter system a bit by having it remember if you want to see closed reg tournaments or not. We don't plan any other changes after that yet, but mostly just because I want people to get used to what we have for a couple of weeks first.

The idea is to offer a buy-in which is not seen as too low and too high for the kind of tournament player playing on our site. At the same time, we would like to give as many players the opportunity to qualify, which is more likely with a buy-in of this amount. For the same reason we made this event a qualifier only event to give lower stake players a better opportunity playing an event like this. While we are growing we will look into higher buy-in events you can buy-in directly for.

Thanks for the feedback and we are very aware of the points you made. One thing you have to bear in mind is that we are not a network like MPN. We are a fresh standalone client and work on growing in a healthy fashion

Yes, we think a game with a 50k starting stack possibility might be fun and because the blinds are very quick in them, it won’t take ages to finish.
Good point, but because we were creating the MTT leagues 3 promotion at the same time I had to keep the name as used for the promotion. I will change this name in the next month.
We will add “Deep Crazy Regular Bounty” with €10 buy-in at 20:15 from tomorrow on. We would like to keep the game at 20:00 as well, because there are players who like to play a non-turbo event around this time too.

This might be perception and the games you are used to play. When there are more requests for big antes and early antes we will definitely look into this at some point, but as Andrew mentioned we like to keep things simple to digest for the players who are not so much structure and ante aware

The lower MTT league has a lot of faster tournaments and I think the €325 GTD Deepstack Turbo is fast enough as well. A turbo league is something we might come up with in the future.

We will change the % fee of the 1 minute tournament to 3% and definitely splash around!

We just removed the fee for the Sunday Entitled €90. Although you might have the feeling that we take care of ourselves, we are overlaying in a lot of qualifiers and games still, but we agree with your suggestion of taking the fee away in the major event.

Thanks for your suggestion about running €25 qualifiers, I will have a look into that. Last chance qualifiers on the Saturday could be a good one

great stuff thankyou, Unibet rules!

Thank you for the rake reduction. I def. don't think Unibet is looking to monetize on their player base as Unibet is the first site to work on organic growth in ages. Just thought that one tourney was a little out of wack compared to the rest of Unibets offerings and overall strategy.

Very impressed with the change and I didn't expect such a drastic drop in rake so thank you very much. Welcome to the thread Robin.

Well played, keep it up

Due to the promo this is my 1st time playing a lot of the mid range buy in tourneys. I am really liking the smooth blind levels.

About the qualifier-only event, will qualifiers give a ticket that is valid for 30 days or what. Might try few satellites, but want to be sure as I won't be able to play this Sunday.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but the entitled satellites aren't showing up under "qualifier" for the MTT filters.

You're not the only one.

It would be nice to be able to see how many people are playing the MTT by looking at the tourney info lobby while playing (not the main tourney lobby, but the one specific to that tourney). Since bustouts are often duplicate numbers it's hard to tell without adding chips up. Would be nice to see in a future update.

Glgl!
The tickets have 14 days validation
Good spot thanks! I wasn't aware of this and it should be there - I will make sure they will be visible there as soon as new tournaments are reproduced in the poker client for tomorrow.
I will make sure they will be visible there as soon as new tournaments are reproduced in the poker client for tomorrow.
Yes this has been requested and hopefully will change in a future release. Although not optimal at the moment, there is a work-around. When you go back to the "full tournament lobby screen" you will be able to see the total entrants in that list instead of the remaining players.

Are only MTT's listed in the category page count towards the leaderboard?

Hi Robin,

The thing that stops me from playing more MTTs on the site is that the long late-registration makes them too much of an open-ended time commitment to fit into the rest of my daily life. When I played on Pokerstars I played reg speed 45 mans, which have 10 minute levels but no late registration - I could start one at 10pm and know that I would be out by midnight and go to bed - (unless I down to the last few fighting for victory, in which case it would be half past midnight but that was a rare enough event).

I suppose I could just late-reg myself but I don't much fancy playing with 10BBs. Of course even if I start at the start, other people come in with 10BBs later on and "spoil" it for the others who wanted to play deep. The long term solution would be to implement multi-table SNGs, but other than that, maybe reduce the length of late reg in some of the tournaments, particularly the ones which are meant to be played deep.

So that's enough about what I personally want, the other idea I think is worth looking at is a "shootout" tournament, which works like a cup competition in football (you only redraw tables when each table is down to one person, so have to win your table to progress to the next round).

Yes that is right, only those count. We chose for this, because otherwise it becomes a thing of grinding 24/7 which is not possible for everyone and gives players who are able to a huge advantage over non-full time players.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts
When the late registrations are unpleasant for you I would suggest to play mainly the turbo's and the crazy deep events. There is at least one turbo event every hour and they come close to the regular speed 45 m.
Regarding multi-table sngs; it is something we have been talking about and will become an option when we grow. It is a format you need lots of traffic for to keep the games starting.
On the positive side, whenever we will add games to the existing schedule it is most likely it won't be a slow game with long late registration.
I would like to know how you feel about sng/mtt's on demand/ a la carte with a late reg not longer than 30mins?

I like the sound of on demand SNGs. I think they could be implemented with a player cap of lets say 18 people so that if a game fills before the 30 minutes people are forced to launch a new game which will help to keep games going constantly. Another thing to keep games going is if the games will launch when 3 players register.

Having a capped amount of people will make it easier to define the payout structure. For each of the possible amount of players that a game might have from 3-18, a lookup table can be used which will store the % payouts and # of players paid. Similar to MTT but pre-defined meaning it wont say "per 3 people 1 gets paid" because that way you could have 5people and 1 paid which IMO doesn't go in line with Unibet principles because it gives better players more edge.

In this scenario the games would be 3 tables of 6 people and there will always be a minimum of 3 people at a table until the end HU. So if there is 13 people it will balance to tables of 4/4/5 players while trying to maintain a similar amount of chips on each table. So it wont just unfairly move a big stack to a table full of shorties and vice versa. This may not always be possible but the balance algorithm must atleast try.

Blind structure would be same as current STT and 2k stacks with 6-7% rake.

There are other scenarios such as 20 player cap that will have 4 tables of 5. This could launch at 5 players(2 paid) and for every new table 1 extra player is paid (easier to implement, only need 4 look up entries per new table of players rather than the possible 18 from above). This is similar to the current Unibet STT though, IMO the goal should be to add something different. Also keeping games running becomes harder.

Just my thoughts on this, hope it makes sense cheers.

I like the idea of on-demands as well but I think traffic is still a little light to support them without hurting the current SNG/MTT traffic. With the way things are going probably February or March would seem about right.

I love the suggestion above about having these start without a full lineup of players. 3 players might not be ideal to start. Why not wait for 5-6 players? If you can't get 5-6 players then it's really unlikely the demand at that time of the day would fill 18-20 players later on. To start I'd put these offerings at the 1euro and 4euro price points.

I think if you launch a game people are generally more likely to join it than a game that hasn't already started especially if its a micro buyin like you suggest. This is because they are playing instantly and why OD could be a popular format. Full Tilt has them and they launch at 12 players which is probably the reason why they are not so successful on there(especially during offpeak). When you make it more players till launch people can just get bored of waiting and unregister then go play another game like STT. I can see there is a conflict here though with liquidity between the two formats where one is fighting against the other for players.

I think it will take a while to implement this type of game anyway so yeah hopefully traffic would be increased by then.

One more point, I think 30 minute demand time would be too much with 3 min blinds so might have to up blind time to 4-5 minutes so it would be t100 or t120 by the time registration closes instead of t240a.

And then get to the top 50 with a huge stack... as all the others and finish 25th... out of 3256 players! What a great result!

As of tomorrow I am starting my campaign to win the custom avatar at the low stakes route so sorry guys you will all have to settle for 2nd place or lower...