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07-27-2016 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Amazing promotion Damn, I want to go Jaguar tracking.

Quick question: do you get any points for the 0€ buyin tournaments? If so, at least the leaderboard formula doesn't work (since you can't multiple by 0), right?

Disclaimer, I'm so bad at math that this might be a very stupid question.

Anyway, massive thumbs up!
Buy-in multiplier for €0 is 0.5. They don't use the actual Buy-in for the calculations.
07-28-2016 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UnibetRep
Happy to let you guys know, we will run a leaderboard MTT series promtion from 5th - 21st August.
The top 100 players on the leaderboard will win prizes, with the top 5 players receiving some pretty unique travel experiences (1st place will go jaguar tracking in Brazil).

https://www.unibet.com/promotions/po...s/rio-showdown
This is an awesome promotion and is a huge step for Unibet.
07-29-2016 , 09:06 AM
Just noticed that all the lb tournaments are turbos why not include regspeeds? It takes away from the promotion when half the tournaments are 1-3min blind bingos and the rest are regular turbos. Would have been nice to play some actual pokers. Still a sweet promotion tho.
07-29-2016 , 09:47 AM
I love the fact that they're turbos. Not into flip tournaments though. Because most people don't have lots of time to play every day during promotion

Still I think there should be some kind of option for Unibet UK Tour Package. It's likely that many players including myself just forfeit that seat and take travel money to better use. 220£ tournament in middle of no-where in UK is not something that makes regs or recs interested if they don't live nearby.
07-29-2016 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
I love the fact that they're turbos. Not into flip tournaments though. Because most people don't have lots of time to play every day during promotion

Still I think there should be some kind of option for Unibet UK Tour Package. It's likely that many players including myself just forfeit that seat and take travel money to better use. 220£ tournament in middle of no-where in UK is not something that makes regs or recs interested if they don't live nearby.
There are online qualifiers from all over europe in the UK tour games and I wouldnt say any of the UK tour locations are in the middle of nowhere.
07-29-2016 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jonny2192
There are online qualifiers from all over europe in the UK tour games and I wouldnt say any of the UK tour locations are in the middle of nowhere.
Farseer does have a point. It wouldn't make much economical sense for someone to fly to a UK tour stop and pay for a hotel for a 220 tourney.
Maybe Unibet could convert these prizes into a 250UO ticket instead.

Regardless this is a small detail much like all the tourneys being turbo's... this promo, when you consider scale, would be like Pstars offering to send someone to the moon. I am very pumped about it.
07-29-2016 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jonny2192
There are online qualifiers from all over europe in the UK tour games and I wouldnt say any of the UK tour locations are in the middle of nowhere.
I guess it is matter of perspective. I think that at least Brighton is middle of no-where for any non-UK resident. Although Manchester in December might be good and tempting otherwise, but as it is scheduled to happen at same time with probably largest European poker festival in Prague. Lots of great tournaments in Prague vs. one 220£ tournament in Manchester.

But yeah, great promotion otherwise. Still would hope to see possibility to use that 220£ ticket for 250€ UO satellite or even for some UO side event. I don't see any positives by forcing players to play in some UK event when there's easy alternatives that would boost other Unibet live events.
07-29-2016 , 10:47 AM
I'm a little confused with what the issue is here.

€750 OU UK package is £634.12 (as of right now according to XE). Minus your £220 buy-in leaves you £414.12 or €490.27 to spend of travel and accommodation. Is that not enough to get from Europe to Glasgow/Manchester?

*Does a quick Google*

Apparently getting anywhere from Helsinki costs a fortune

Quote:
Just noticed that all the lb tournaments are turbos why not include regspeeds? It takes away from the promotion when half the tournaments are 1-3min blind bingos and the rest are regular turbos. Would have been nice to play some actual pokers. Still a sweet promotion tho.
There are 8 min blinds on the 7th and 9th and 6 min on the 16th-17th.
07-29-2016 , 11:01 AM
Yeah Helsinki to anywhere is super expensive unless you know what you're doing, there are a couple of good tricks tho. Mainly you have to toy around with stopovers. For example I just bought a Helsinki>Oslo>Pristina flight for 80 euros, when only the exact same first leg flight to Oslo would've cost 160. /OT

RE turbos, I mean I'm not opposed to some of them being turbos and I'm completely fine with having no super deep events due to time constraints. But now a large % of the events are basically complete flipouts with their 1min-3min levels and there's very little skill factor in that. Change everything that has levels of less than 5mins to 10min level normal structure stuff and it's good. I get that Unibet wants to reward recs, but it's kinda pointless to run a leaderboard that's just a flipfest. The essence of a leaderboard should be "who's the most consistent player over x amount of tournaments" and now it's just "who's the luckiest coinflipper".

I don't mean to sound overly negative, the € value in this promotion is insane and it's probably the best promotion ran by any site in years, and I'm thrilled to be able to play it. I just feel like the structures are really bad/pointless/quite a letdown, but maybe it's not too late to change at least some of them? Half turbos, half semifast regspeeds even, would be so much better than this with 0 regspeeds, half turbos and half flipaments.


E: 8 mins would maybe count almost as regspeeds, but 6mins is definitely a turbo.
07-29-2016 , 11:55 AM
I agree the flip shouldn't have been included tbh. I raised the point on the main 2+2 thread and also on the community. It's basically been done so recs have more chance of binking a lucky tourney and getting a nice prize.
07-29-2016 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
I'm a little confused with what the issue is here.

€750 OU UK package is £634.12 (as of right now according to XE). Minus your £220 buy-in leaves you £414.12 or €490.27 to spend of travel and accommodation. Is that not enough to get from Europe to Glasgow/Manchester?

*Does a quick Google*

Apparently getting anywhere from Helsinki costs a fortune



There are 8 min blinds on the 7th and 9th and 6 min on the 16th-17th.
It is enough money... but I don't see many people spending 400 to enter a 200 tourney. Most of these winners are just going to relinquish the seat and pocket the cash. Yeah it is "extra" money but as soon as this "extra" money lands in a players pocket it becomes "earned" money very quickly.

If it's not too late I too would like to see some 8 min blind levels.... but making them shorter levels does help out recs and without a growth in recs we won't be seeing this type of promo again so I'm ok with it if this is deemed as necessary.

tbh when I asked for a big top heavy prize for an MTT leaderboard I was thinking 1 UO open package and 2-5 get a 250 ticket with the top 50 getting lower prizes. What Unibet has done is way over my expectations and I hope that they aren't blowing their wad and something similar can be done again.
07-29-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnibetRep
Happy to let you guys know, we will run a leaderboard MTT series promtion from 5th - 21st August.
The top 100 players on the leaderboard will win prizes, with the top 5 players receiving some pretty unique travel experiences (1st place will go jaguar tracking in Brazil).

https://www.unibet.com/promotions/po...s/rio-showdown
Amazing promotion Damn, I want to go Jaguar tracking.
With horseback riding! That's neat how they put so much thought into making all the prize extra special

Personally have no chance of ever making a leaderboard of anything lol - but have heard so many people say so many nice things about their experiences playing on Unibet, and Unibet seems like they put a lot of thought into trying to offer stuff that people really want to play ... have been meaning to check it out for a while, should maybe follow through with that sometime

Last edited by TrustySam; 07-29-2016 at 06:07 PM.
07-30-2016 , 03:51 AM
If I won first prize I'd just take the 2500 euro expenses and spend it on a great family holiday in Europe, not on going to Brazil without my kids. I doubt my wife would even go to Brazil with the Zika thing in the news.

2nd, with the office tour is the clear star prize. The other ones are decent too.
07-30-2016 , 12:00 PM
I'm aiming to go to San Sebastian. I travelled there 5 years ago with my wife and and another couple for a Poker tourney and would love to go back. I love the flexibility of being able to choose when you want to go within 12 months as almost all promos are exact dates that may not work for players.
08-02-2016 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
This is an awesome promotion and is a huge step for Unibet.
Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Just noticed that all the lb tournaments are turbos why not include regspeeds? It takes away from the promotion when half the tournaments are 1-3min blind bingos and the rest are regular turbos. Would have been nice to play some actual pokers. Still a sweet promotion tho.
Thanks for your feedback. For this event we chose more for the turbo format events that we offer.
This partly because it fits more in the casual poker and mainly sport better’s player profile, it will make it more appealing to participate for players that at the same time like to grind their own cash game, sit & go sessions or bet on sports.
Partly also because it levels out the chances a bit to win a prize from the leaderboard. The aim of this particular promotion is to reach a broader audience than only MTT players, which eventually will be good for our regular MTT players. However we will consider to balance the games a bit more for the next time, as we also value the mainly MTT player’s input, especially when it comes to a MTT promotion.
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
I love the fact that they're turbos. Not into flip tournaments though. Because most people don't have lots of time to play every day during promotion

Still I think there should be some kind of option for Unibet UK Tour Package. It's likely that many players including myself just forfeit that seat and take travel money to better use. 220£ tournament in middle of no-where in UK is not something that makes regs or recs interested if they don't live nearby.
Thanks for your input. Would a poker tournament outside the UK be more appealing to you? Is it a destination issue or a prize issue in this matter?

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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
I guess it is matter of perspective. I think that at least Brighton is middle of no-where for any non-UK resident. Although Manchester in December might be good and tempting otherwise, but as it is scheduled to happen at same time with probably largest European poker festival in Prague. Lots of great tournaments in Prague vs. one 220£ tournament in Manchester.

But yeah, great promotion otherwise. Still would hope to see possibility to use that 220£ ticket for 250€ UO satellite or even for some UO side event. I don't see any positives by forcing players to play in some UK event when there's easy alternatives that would boost other Unibet live events.
Thanks for your input, will discuss it with the team
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyP84
I'm a little confused with what the issue is here.

€750 OU UK package is £634.12 (as of right now according to XE). Minus your £220 buy-in leaves you £414.12 or €490.27 to spend of travel and accommodation. Is that not enough to get from Europe to Glasgow/Manchester?

*Does a quick Google*

Apparently getting anywhere from Helsinki costs a fortune



There are 8 min blinds on the 7th and 9th and 6 min on the 16th-17th.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Yeah Helsinki to anywhere is super expensive unless you know what you're doing, there are a couple of good tricks tho. Mainly you have to toy around with stopovers. For example I just bought a Helsinki>Oslo>Pristina flight for 80 euros, when only the exact same first leg flight to Oslo would've cost 160. /OT

RE turbos, I mean I'm not opposed to some of them being turbos and I'm completely fine with having no super deep events due to time constraints. But now a large % of the events are basically complete flipouts with their 1min-3min levels and there's very little skill factor in that. Change everything that has levels of less than 5mins to 10min level normal structure stuff and it's good. I get that Unibet wants to reward recs, but it's kinda pointless to run a leaderboard that's just a flipfest. The essence of a leaderboard should be "who's the most consistent player over x amount of tournaments" and now it's just "who's the luckiest coinflipper".

I don't mean to sound overly negative, the € value in this promotion is insane and it's probably the best promotion ran by any site in years, and I'm thrilled to be able to play it. I just feel like the structures are really bad/pointless/quite a letdown, but maybe it's not too late to change at least some of them? Half turbos, half semifast regspeeds even, would be so much better than this with 0 regspeeds, half turbos and half flipaments.


E: 8 mins would maybe count almost as regspeeds, but 6mins is definitely a turbo.
Let me say I understand where you are coming from and more balance is something we will consider for upcoming MTT promotions. We didn’t just create this with the idea of skipping any skill levels. We looked at it from the POV of who we will attract to the games and what would be suitable for them. Even though you prefer slower games, you will still be better than the majority in any of the faster games, which should be an incentive for you next to the leaderboard prizes to play. At the other hand, we will demotivate players we are going to attract, if we invest the schedule with slow games. Thus overall I think this is the legit option for this promtion.
Finally I think we should also think, about how good it is for the games to always create a leaderboard that is mostly winnable by skill and volume. I mean you and I have seen leaderboard standings over the years were the top winners in the games also win the biggest leaderboard prizes. What is there left for the average player or below average player? We cannot expect them to keep on playing without a chance of being rewarded their investments in time and money as well. As a skilful player you will win money regardless of the leaderboard and the promotions in the first place are there to attract new people to the games.
I am not against a leaderboard mainly based on skill, but I prefer to change it up now and then.
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
It is enough money... but I don't see many people spending 400 to enter a 200 tourney. Most of these winners are just going to relinquish the seat and pocket the cash. Yeah it is "extra" money but as soon as this "extra" money lands in a players pocket it becomes "earned" money very quickly.

If it's not too late I too would like to see some 8 min blind levels.... but making them shorter levels does help out recs and without a growth in recs we won't be seeing this type of promo again so I'm ok with it if this is deemed as necessary.

tbh when I asked for a big top heavy prize for an MTT leaderboard I was thinking 1 UO open package and 2-5 get a 250 ticket with the top 50 getting lower prizes. What Unibet has done is way over my expectations and I hope that they aren't blowing their wad and something similar can be done again.
I will discuss the concerns about the UK package. Even though it is up to a player, if he prefer to forfeit his UK Tour seat and take the cash. I feel a different prize would be better here. What do we think about an event with seat and travel money being 50-50 outside of the UK would be more suitable?
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Originally Posted by TrustySam
With horseback riding! That's neat how they put so much thought into making all the prize extra special

Personally have no chance of ever making a leaderboard of anything lol - but have heard so many people say so many nice things about their experiences playing on Unibet, and Unibet seems like they put a lot of thought into trying to offer stuff that people really want to play ... have been meaning to check it out for a while, should maybe follow through with that sometime
You are missing out
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
If I won first prize I'd just take the 2500 euro expenses and spend it on a great family holiday in Europe, not on going to Brazil without my kids. I doubt my wife would even go to Brazil with the Zika thing in the news.

2nd, with the office tour is the clear star prize. The other ones are decent too.
That sounds like a really nice alternative!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sect7G
I'm aiming to go to San Sebastian. I travelled there 5 years ago with my wife and and another couple for a Poker tourney and would love to go back. I love the flexibility of being able to choose when you want to go within 12 months as almost all promos are exact dates that may not work for players.
Glgl during the promotions guys!
08-03-2016 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
If I won first prize I'd just take the 2500 euro expenses and spend it on a great family holiday in Europe, not on going to Brazil without my kids. I doubt my wife would even go to Brazil with the Zika thing in the news.

2nd, with the office tour is the clear star prize. The other ones are decent too.
Hey Lektor, good news for you:

All travel package winners can exchange their trip for another trip of the same value, so if you wanted to take your kids and wife somewhere you could book a trip for your whole family up to the same value
08-03-2016 , 07:24 AM
^Great.
08-03-2016 , 04:30 PM
FYI, once more the unibet.eu site doesn't show the promo.
08-04-2016 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
FYI, once more the unibet.eu site doesn't show the promo.
Thnx for noticing. Best to have it up already, will be fixed today!
08-04-2016 , 11:13 AM
hey UnibetRep,
did you make any changes to Double Trouble ?
it seems to be perfect now with starting stacks and 3 mins levels
08-05-2016 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kapetain
hey UnibetRep,
did you make any changes to Double Trouble ?
it seems to be perfect now with starting stacks and 3 mins levels
Hey, yes I did. Good to hear it is well received! Thanks
08-07-2016 , 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Just noticed that all the lb tournaments are turbos why not include regspeeds? It takes away from the promotion when half the tournaments are 1-3min blind bingos and the rest are regular turbos. Would have been nice to play some actual pokers. Still a sweet promotion tho.
- Tournaments

- Actual pokers

Pick one pls.
08-11-2016 , 11:47 AM
This may be a stupid question but is there no mobile app? I at least can't find one from the app store. I was planning to continue the leaderboard grind at a festival this weekend but I guess that's not happening
08-11-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
This may be a stupid question but is there no mobile app? I at least can't find one from the app store. I was planning to continue the leaderboard grind at a festival this weekend but I guess that's not happening
Only Ipad app at the moment. Iphone/Android are on the long list
08-11-2016 , 01:30 PM
There is Android. It is direct download from their site but only single-tabling.

      
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