^ I just realised I accidentally added 10/20 , 15/30 in that proposed structure . Make it start with 20/40 or 25/50 and add 50/100 , 75/150 , 125/250 , 350/700 ffs.

5.50(non turbo) is deeper than $27 daily even though you get 5000 ss in 27 , but if you ask the regulars who play both buyins , most of them will say 5.50 is much deeper than 27.

On some of these i actually disagree..
The $33 do not change from 3 to 6 it was being cancelled way too much it's fine how it is.

As in changing the 22 to a 27 i'm all for putting more higher buyins in but its unfair to people with smaller bankrolls. There's already two 27 pkos and other 27 hypers this is fine the way it is.

The 109 is finally running fine again and is playable. Changing it back to 9 max defeats the purpose of changing it to 6 max, It runs now so leave it be

If anything keep the min start to 3 players for them all at least they will run.

The $215 i agree should be moved later by about 2 hours. also needs at least two more Sattalites in the $27 buyin range to match the NLO8 one.

And the $215 flo8 weekly needs to come back

Also on another note.. Yes the $11r runs way late/early for Europeans maybe introduce a Rebuy 08 mtt in the middle of the day. I know we have the $5r but one in the $11 to $22 buy in range would be great.

As for the PLO $55 PKO, that mtt looks great but it plays too late for UK players. Would 100% love to play it if it was in a different time slot.

Also a $55 NLO8 pko would be awesome

It's a pretty good summer, so I guess waiting until September and run more MTT's then is +EV for stars. It's when people will come home from work and start running their engines again

Alongside with a new structure & Gtd I believe it'll be working with 6 players to kick off. A few more players early on might help to increase overall numbers.
Wasn't it 9 players min when it was canceled?


The idea behind $27 is people can use their Step3 tickets and thus use FPPs to buy in via VIP store. I think people who play $22 also can afford $27. The additional $5 obv helps to raise the Gtd too.

Generally my post was all about mid/high stakes MTTs. I'm not sure what the situation is for low stakes, but obv please don't convert mid stakes into low stakes.


Do you play this?

Even with the new Gtd of 3K the maximum players simultaneously playing is about 20. This means this tourney is constantly played shorthanded because there are simply not enough players to fill up the tables.

Especially during late reg this is highly annoying as tables constantly break up and thus there won't be any "flow" of the game. Another annoyance is that during late reg there is always at least one seat reserved for the next player to enter:
- with 6 players: 2 tables 3-handed
- with 12 platers: 3 tables 4-handed
- with 18 players: 4 tables 4/5-handed
- currently doesn't reach 24 players simultaneously as players bust before end of late reg

I hope that makes it clear why 6-max does not make sense in tiny field MTTs unless you like to play ultra-shorthanded. Make it 9-max and it will play like a ~7-max.

Flaw in the structure of increasing blind levels ($55/$109 PLO8)

Due to the small field the tourneys currently only reaches the 2nd duration increase.

Currently
10 x 8min levels
10 x 10min levels (this is when tourney currently finishes)
10 x 12min levels
unlimited x 15min levels

Suggested
6 x 8min levels
6 x 10min levels
unlimited 12min levels

Please also regard this issue should you consider to apply this kind of structure to the other $11-$33 PLO8 MTTs.

at the very least dont stop the existing 2.40 hyper dsos when the tournaments start


satelite offerings to these weeklys are so weak

customer thoughts: "if i play one of these $8 dso sats .....
----if i win my first table i get to play another sat for free if i dont win a seat
----if it takes me 2 attempts to win a seat (into a psko) just one bounty means im freerolling
----if i win my first table i get to play the event 50% of the time its really appealing
----id love to register that type of sat, sad they dont offer them

at the moment these cancel even if theyre almost filled 5 minutes into the targets latereg and its at the time when they fill the fastest

who is offended if they get put into the target in the second half of level 2?

Both the $215 and $82 weekly FLO8s have now gone (afaict). This is just terrible. They used to basically always hit the guarantees. I cannot see a possible reason for it, but they need to be brought back.

You are cute... I'd go out on a limb and say they did that intentionally...They know fieldsizes and when games end, they just sold it as improvements to look good...
It's the same in the 16,50$ PLO Hi.

The structure of the 11$+R PLO Hi has also been changed, but it's 8 level with 10 min blinds up to 100/200, then 15min until end, which is not worse than before with less early levels but 15 min blinds all the time.

8min blinds in early levels are crapshots.
I would recommend to use the 10/15 structure for all Omaha events, since it's easy to understand and remember, and not a 8min semi-turbo in all deepstacked levels like the current structure.
Freezeouts should just be 6x10 min up to 50/100 incl, and then 15 min until end, imo.

Lukebryan whoever stars gets to look at these days.

Again as always can we please also have a $530 NLO8 midweek and also a once a week $320 NLO8 PKO? Also a daily $55 PLO8 or NLO8 PKO would be fantastic to match the PLO one seeing as we only have a $27 one and a few $82 hypers atm.

And can we please have a response why you cut the FLO8 weeklies?

^^No.
No 530 NLO8, no 320, no 55's, and definintely also no to getting a response why they kill LO8 and PLO Hi MTT's...

From the full tilt thread:
+1million. Would be awesome to see a new game every week with a juicy guarantee on a Sunday. If the GOTW happens to be a game that already has a weekly 82, replace it with that.

I think 109 buyin would be best, to encourage players to try out a new game, and has the best chance of a high prizepool. Every Midstakes+ mtt reg would probably add it to their schedule depending on game type. Adjust the GTD based on the game.

Luke, can you pls respond to this post? This will be my 5th time making a post about this

Make the 55 plo8 bowl into a lovely nlo8 pko. Watch the guarantee go to 5k inside a month.

Survey the regs who always play the 109 o8 on which they prefer, I'm not really a reg in it anymore but I'd probably play it more as 9max due to the shorthanded issue but this is largely because I play a lot of tables and not because I think the tournament would be better that way. Obviously increasing it from 3 to 6 min players is an extremely bad idea.

I still have absolutely no idea on why new Omanias aren't being introduced. I'm starting to think its due to the winrates the regs have in these fields, rather than Stars thinking it isn't a good idea, as it seems obvious to everyone I speak to that they would be very popular.

320 sko plo for sundays? Nice mix of the popular things atm.

Before adding other O8 mtts, I think we clearly need to get both Sunday weekly $82 and $215 FLO8s back. Still a mystery to me why those were ever removed.
I've now e-mailed Stars about it, but still haven't heard back yet. I think we need to get more people behind this.

any chance of 10 game coming to stars? would easily be as popular as 8 game.

Would fire 82 weekly 10game every time

How about giving some Guarantee Boost to NLO8 / PLO8 tournaments, as winter is coming? Might even give them a decent chunk of my MTT volume.

+ million. I've told this to the Stars rep twice, and he has passed it onto them, but never anything back .
Would be especially good now that FTP is done and doesn't have 10-game anymore.

are we ever gonna get midstakes omanias ever?

+1 for LO8 weeklies coming back, 10-game being added, and midstakes Omanias, fwiw...

what are the general thoughts of having more PLO tournaments as 6max? its by faaar more popular in cash games for a reason.

on saturday theres 2 mid-highstakes red full ring PLO tourneys and all the omanias are ful ring as well. why not have a 55$ 6max omania? the saturday 55plo gets more runners than some similar nlhe fos around that time. i would reg a tourney like that every day but right now the PLO mtt schedule is just a bit withered imo

We had the discussion already, and the daily 11+R and the 55$ Saturday PLO got switched to 6max, as well as the nightly 55$, plus the new PSKO all being 6max.
Aside of the Weeklies, it's basically just one 16,50$ daily, two 27/33$ turbos, and the Omanias that are 9max above micros, at this point.
I was against more 6max a year ago, but the 9max games really suck by now, so I support your notion here

6-max sucks generally both in PLO and PLO8 (and NLO8). If it has to be something different, 8-max should be enough change from full table.

The faster the structure is, the more sense it makes to have a 6max structure.
I would recommend to change the 27$ re-entry turbo and the 33$ turbo around noon CET to 6max, but I think all others don't really need to be changed to 6max.

I'd love to see an 11$ turbo of the same vatriant, one hour after each 27$ daily starts, and a 5,10$ hyper 2 hours after the reg-speed. This would allow all the players who single-table the 27$ dailys to play some more games each day, which many/most of the single-tablers of niche-variants likely wouldn't.
Also I guess that pure fun-players in any niche-variant will be able to learn the ins and outs of shortstackplay a bit better with more experience, hence will not only rake 1-1,10$ more per day, but also improve their game to lose less, hence rake more in the long run.

And +1 to a notice in the lobby of how much 1st place will (at least) be in these. With less than 100 runners, it will give a lot of incentive to play for many people, I think, as already said ITT.