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07-28-2015 , 06:58 AM
No thank you to making bigs and hots PSKO
07-28-2015 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iquitafter100k
Maybe make some of the BIGs and HOTs PSKO? Would be cool.
Oh god please no. There's nowhere near enough decent gtd vanilla regspeed mtts in the schedule. If these get converted, then I prob won't log into stars except for Sundays.
07-28-2015 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Error Prone
If you're timing out ANY hand 20 times a session then you're playing too many tables and are therefore a ****ing *******.
Guys who pay more of the rake should have more say in this matter. Ultimately stars are trying to run a business and us playing a ton of tables makes them money and keeps the prizepools larger. Removing the auto timebank means we have to reduce the number of games we play and they make less money and we make less money and the prizepools drop. Shorten the timebanks, keep the auto timebank. That's fair.
07-28-2015 , 08:55 AM
We understand. Auto timebank great for regs. Auto timebank bad for recs.

What we need is a solution that fixes the problem, if there even is one worth fixing, that is good for everyone.
07-28-2015 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by iquitafter100k
Maybe make some of the BIGs and HOTs PSKO? Would be cool.

Also, hopefully the Summer Leaderboard for tournaments returns for next summer, it is literally the only reason why I'm playing in the summer time, and why I'm playing MTTs. I think many can relate.
God no.

The amount of psko on current offering is starting to hurt the bigs and hots right now.
07-28-2015 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
God no.

The amount of psko on current offering is starting to hurt the bigs and hots right now.
PSKOs get a lot of people because they are way way more fun than normal tournaments and a lot of people really like them. So obviously there should be more of something people are really eager to play.
07-28-2015 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostofdc13
You time out pocket aces 20 times a session because there is no auto timebank, How do you feel?? Leave our precious auto timebank alone.
I feel like you deserve it. Stop ruining the games for those of us that only play a couple of tables at a time.
07-28-2015 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
We understand. Auto timebank great for regs. Auto timebank bad for recs.

What we need is a solution that fixes the problem, if there even is one worth fixing, that is good for everyone.
yea i think its pretty easy to find a common ground. ppl are arguing about timebank or no timebank which is really stupid, because you can`t have 0 timebank at all times in tournaments.

but also what some posters said about big-fielded mtts being on break for 10 minutes because of ppl miss-using the timebank should never happen either. no tourney should start with 3-4 minutes TB when people are just gonna make a sandvich during break at blinds 50/100 and no tourney should have 0 TB on a final table bubble.
07-28-2015 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
so you dont think theyve already stopped listening to the requests of net withdrawing customers and these threads are just "people stars doesnt give a damn about" containment threads?
Very few regs seem to understand that just because we pay rake it doesn't mean that stars make money from us. I've stopped bothering arguing with people about it
07-28-2015 , 11:21 AM
Of course they should get rid of timebanks and set a max table limit for everyone. This will never happen tho so we should talk about something more productive.
07-28-2015 , 12:55 PM
If you think I was arguing we should get rid of the time bank or that players should have a max table limit you have misunderstood me. I think how the time bank is activated should change (specifically I don't think an ante should count as money in the pot) and the ability for people to use it to bring the game to a halt should change. It should absolutely be there when players really need it for tough decisions. Similarly my big point wasn't there should be a max table limit, but that players shouldn't be allowed to play more tables than they can handle. The person thinking they go into their time bank >20 times per hour because of their table count is a clear example.

To dismiss it as unproductive is a little naive. Team Sky in cycling crushed the world by making lots of small marginal gains in lots of areas, rather than massive leaps forward in one or two things. If you want to improve the poker world, get more people playing, increase your prize pools, then you need to look in detail at all the little things. Not because amending how the time bank or table count works will in itself bring another boom, but because all the little things add up and make a difference in their totality.
07-28-2015 , 01:52 PM
removing auto engaging timebanks will do nothign as most regulars use tableninja/starshelper, which auto engages pre ante.

some of the proposed fixes can be found in the STT thread. some are pretty interesting. one idea i liked was less time to act in unopened pots and more on other streets. 15 seconds before time bank is used utg to fold at t20 is too much.

i agree with rowniwn that probably nothing will happen but thats a bad attitude. alot of people would like to see some type of adjustment here. whats the point of this thread if you think they wont listen to players suggestions.

Last edited by david negus; 07-28-2015 at 02:01 PM.
07-28-2015 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by david negus
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07-28-2015 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iquitafter100k
PSKOs get a lot of people because they are way way more fun than normal tournaments and a lot of people really like them. So obviously there should be more of something people are really eager to play.
enough is enough with these goddamn psko. Schedule is already overwhelmed by it. I and many others like to play some real poker from time to time.
07-28-2015 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
enough is enough with these goddamn psko. Schedule is already overwhelmed by it. I and many others like to play some real poker from time to time.
+1
07-28-2015 , 02:00 PM
I like the partypoker auto timebank fwiw. Only starts when you've already put money in the pot.
07-28-2015 , 02:03 PM
Hots/bigs are not having trouble bringing in players. Making them psko is complelty unnecessary.

PS luke, any updates on new bigs/hots?
07-28-2015 , 07:44 PM
Even PSKOs getting lowered now. from 15 to 12k. and the 1r 3x is at 15k now haha it's over
07-29-2015 , 12:14 AM
New World, When You go to work for 5-10 years and dont learn new technology, soon there will be a new kid on the block to take your jobs.

You all work for Stars, and it has deemed that You all are getting old, it wants to get younger generation play what they like not what what you like 10 years ago and are still working on same button clicking.

Stars is having its way, it just does not need to pay pension, smarter ones have their stables and are training.

Save the games, Save Online Poker.
07-29-2015 , 02:11 AM
Since when did the $11 turbo at in 07:15 in the morning not make it's 5k guaranteed? Seeing as it's decreased to $4k. Early morning grinds are becoming useless nowadays, as the $55 turbo was butchered too (turned into a $33 -> same player pool, but a 40% lower first prize). At the same time I have to thank you for the laugh it gave me to see a little purple advertisement in the $5,10 hyper PSKO stating "guarantee boost". Maybe every time a guarantee gets lowered you should advertise this aswell?
07-29-2015 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pietro_MK
Even PSKOs getting lowered now. from 15 to 12k. and the 1r 3x is at 15k now haha it's over
At least give the 3x a Sunday guarantee, how about guaranteeing five figures up top
07-29-2015 , 09:37 AM
14.15 ET 1$ 3xr- Turbo was 60k all the years
then 50k some months ago
then 40k some weeks ago
now 35k.


you can't tell me this comes because spain and protugal have left the market, right?

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how about guaranteeing five figures up top
yeah, back then I remember how I leeched for the 1st prize with 11k$ and got only 5th and 6th throughout the years.
The 1$ KO at ET morning time also states "500$ for first" which is a very good way to get people regged.
07-29-2015 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
I like the partypoker auto timebank fwiw. Only starts when you've already put money in the pot.
Isn't it the same on stars?
07-29-2015 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Isn't it the same on stars?
Yeah but an ante counts as putting the money in the pot so its basically pointless.
07-29-2015 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
14.15 ET 1$ 3xr- Turbo was 60k all the years
then 50k some months ago
then 40k some weeks ago
now 35k.


you can't tell me this comes because spain and protugal have left the market, right?



yeah, back then I remember how I leeched for the 1st prize with 11k$ and got only 5th and 6th throughout the years.
The 1$ KO at ET morning time also states "500$ for first" which is a very good way to get people regged.
This tourney is a little different to all the other guarantee drops. This tourney dropped off overnight when Stars changed the late reg from 90 mins to 60 mins. I do agree with the change though as it was structurally unfair.

      
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