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****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread**** ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

03-21-2016 , 06:56 PM
How about stealing good parts of stars like its bigs and hots, and running the same exact buyin/time slot but with lower gtds to start, but with a good payout structure (not like the new one stars has just implemented to their hots and bigs).

+1 with rebuy frenzy ideas, now you have an edge in the market if ur not raking rebuys and could be used as a tool to market rebuys on ur site

Also how about a once month mtt like the super mill, $215 buy 1 mill gtd.
03-21-2016 , 07:02 PM
Does Party Poker have a daily / weekly NLH Ante-Up MTT ? If so anyone know the schedule for it / buy in / Prize Pool ?

Thanks
03-21-2016 , 07:06 PM
I think we ve seen party isn't quite ready for a 200$ mill ball, but a half milly monthly special is a must with month long satires to it. Make a monthly super Sunday on third Sunday every month or Sth with a 1k 300k and a 200$ 500k or so. Make the rebut frenzy happen, play around with variable timed blind levels, steal the structure from stars bigs. Act fast and spend some promotional money, the new rebuts must be labeled and promoted, you could seriously bite off a massive piece of the pie here, everything else would grow, I d happily make you my biggest volume site, that's unprecedented
03-21-2016 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
OK, let's be realistic for a second. They've held 3 Powerfest MEs over the last 3 Sundays and I don't think any of them met their GTD and had small overlays.

If NLHE is getting overlays in Big MTT series how do you expect NLO8, PLO8 and the likes to do?
I actually wasn't trying to get them to add non-holdems to their Powerfest series. I was using the ratio of non-holdem events during SCOOP as an example of what should be available on their weekly schedule.

To be honest, I don't play on PartyPoker because last time I checked, they little to zero PLO8 and NLO8 tournaments on their daily schedule. They continue to be ignorant on the subject that they've "experimented" with non-holdem and they've failed. Yet, pretty much any site that runs them properly has succeeded. I'm not asking for a full high stakes schedule. I think that in terms of # of tournaments, having even 1/20 of what Stars offers would be reasonable given the differences in population between the two rooms. They currently don't even offer 1/100 of what Pokerstars offers for O8.

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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi

Currently NLO and 5 Card Stud MTTs are not available on Party

FLO8 is not a very popular event for our players - hence why we currently do not offer it

We have tried mixed games before and found we simply do not have the player base so opt to focus on the more popular games

Thanks

What kind of experiments have you guys made to determine that you don't have the player base?

Just to give you an idea, Bodog/Bovada has about 30 O8 tournaments during the course of a day and they are getting decent fields.

I feel like I've provided a lot of examples/reasons why O8 would be successful on PartyPoker. What will it take for you guys to change your mind?

With all the negative reaction to Pokerstars' rake changes, do you think you guys would be interested in adding a couple of smaller tournaments to the daily schedule to see how they perform?

A daily $22, $11 and a few $<10 events would be a great way to get players to try a new game.

As always, thanks for reading.
03-21-2016 , 08:53 PM
Run a series in may w scoop. Call it "The high low" and run 2 tiers in the same event.

Also put a 55$ daily w good gtd, 11r and 22r. Next monday people will be HUNGRY for good rebuys.
03-21-2016 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Here are some things you shoudl do:
-Implement 3k 20$+ 1/2 turbo rb and 2k 5$+ turbo 2k into your regular Powerseries. Right now its in a different tab and many players are missing those 2 Games.

-After your poweseries, i would bring the WPT-Structure into your daily-Majors 109$ 50k, 20$ 20k and 5$ 10k? with different time-levels. Right now 20$ 20k has exactly same structure as the 109$ 50k (it takes to long so shorten thetime/level). This would push those Games.

-While you implement those WPT-Structure you need to adjust your structures in the other MTTs aswell. Like mentioned several time, you can use 8min/10min/12min/15min/20min levels to shorten the first levels while increasing the last levels. If this is not possible, cut out some early levels and implement some later levels.

-add 3k 20$ 1/2rb @ midnight 00:00CET, it would easily run because players have way less tables and are begging for such games due to that time.

Those are atm the biggest problems/chances you have right now. Schedule seems alright right now.
+ Reduce Blindlevel @ Contender back to 12min, it takes way to long now!!

Would be nice, if you can give this feedback to your team and take it into consideration.
03-22-2016 , 04:27 AM
Rebuy series is a fantastic idea considering what stars have done with their rebuy fees. Problem is making everyone aware the grass actually is greener over here.
03-22-2016 , 01:31 PM
Bwin won't work for me.
Can open it, but then it freezes. Can manage to login, but then the client goes blanco white on me.
Anyone w Party having similar issues?

Wont even bother contacting Bwin CS cuz they take forever and dont know Jack anyways.

Last edited by KingBustYou; 03-22-2016 at 01:40 PM.
03-22-2016 , 04:51 PM
Thanks for the fantastic series, I had so much fun with the deep structures! I'm playing more and more of my schedule at Partypoker, keep up the good work!
03-23-2016 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KingBustYou
Bwin won't work for me.
Can open it, but then it freezes. Can manage to login, but then the client goes blanco white on me.
Anyone w Party having similar issues?

Wont even bother contacting Bwin CS cuz they take forever and dont know Jack anyways.
+1

every time i open the client it closes and reopens before i can log in, no way for me to access the lobby

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Originally Posted by kriispirolls
Thanks for the fantastic series, I had so much fun with the deep structures! I'm playing more and more of my schedule at Partypoker, keep up the good work!
+1

please enable me to log in to play pure poker Wednesday
03-23-2016 , 05:43 AM
Do you not think 30,000 chips is overdoing it a bit??
03-23-2016 , 07:37 AM
The schedule is really awesome, as was the recent series.

A few suggestions on the daily schedule;

- I enjoy 6 max turbos and they definitely should be in the schedule. I don't think you need quite so many of them though! I think they work best, on the nightly schedule when you are not on quite so many tables. Most regs are playing out a few deep runs and would hop in a 6 max turbo then, but skip it earlier.

- You make a big deal out of the 22 & 109 tournaments but the 55$ level is pretty neglected, why don't you incorporate that into the Middleweight level?

- Rebuys! You used to I think, have a great 11r & 22r, why don't you bring these back? As has been mentioned quite a few times in this thread, stars have just killed all of the rebuys & hypers on the site. Use this and market it as Rake free rebuys!

- I really like the 30,000 starting chips, I do however think you need to stick early antes in them. This is a positive change for everyone, regs enjoy because they play more hands and recs will enjoy because more action is happening at the tables.


I think these new tournaments can definitely be added now, as of next monday most regs will not be playing 10-20 games that they usually would do on stars. I think a lot of them would be very happy to move that action to Party.


Also, Thanks for stepping up and taking on stars!
03-23-2016 , 11:02 AM
Just read this in the article about the $500,000 guaranteed GPPT Online.

''Day 2 starts at 19:00 (GMT) on Sunday, and features longer levels than the Day 1s (18 mins vs 12 mins or 8 mins for Day 1M), so gives plenty of play at the business end of the tournament.''

This is really great stuff! Longer levels when it starts to get really interesting is definitely exciting for both regulars and recreational players.

If you add some more $55 tournaments and introduce 11/22/33 rebuys like skadooshh suggested above a lot players (including me) would pretty much move 60-70% of their volume to Party.
03-23-2016 , 11:20 AM
Please stop constantly changing the structures!!!! Just pick something and stick with it for a while.
03-23-2016 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kriispirolls
Just read this in the article about the $500,000 guaranteed GPPT Online.

''Day 2 starts at 19:00 (GMT) on Sunday, and features longer levels than the Day 1s (18 mins vs 12 mins or 8 mins for Day 1M), so gives plenty of play at the business end of the tournament.''

This is really great stuff! Longer levels when it starts to get really interesting is definitely exciting for both regulars and recreational players.

If you add some more $55 tournaments and introduce 11/22/33 rebuys like skadooshh suggested above a lot players (including me) would pretty much move 60-70% of their volume to Party.
Link?
03-23-2016 , 12:00 PM
Still not able to access the client, would love to be able to play on party(bwin) tonight since pokerstars fcked up today

would mail bwin support but as kingbustyou said earlier, that's likely not getting a response any time today
03-23-2016 , 01:05 PM
Yeah, time to finally bring back turbo and regular rebuys, with PokerStars killing them finally in just one single blow (raked rebuys).

Another note: bring back all the turbo rebuy sats. As 3x turbos will die quickly in Stars and with your current line-up of decently tempting guaranteed (especially daily 109$ 50k and 530$ 50k) you have a clear spot to not just bring back efficient and good satellite program (3x add-ons with 5 min levels would be best) but also support your guaranteeds!
03-23-2016 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
Do you not think 30,000 chips is overdoing it a bit??
+1

PLEASE stop arbitrarily increasing starting stack sizes in random fkn mtts.
03-23-2016 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by the-wheel
+1

PLEASE stop arbitrarily increasing starting stack sizes in random fkn mtts.
i think the new structure is better since we skip over the super deep no antes play. id rather have antes from start and the new structure kinda brings that into play.

you do not have to late reg 2hrs in anymore.

idk if u checked that or just the starting stack

and im pretty sure its a better playing experience now
03-23-2016 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by the-wheel
+1

PLEASE stop arbitrarily increasing starting stack sizes in random fkn mtts.

AFAIK it's just for Wednesday's as part of their Pure Poker promotion...

EDIT: Yeah they are back to 10,000 chips tomorrow.
03-23-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooner933
Please stop constantly changing the structures!!!! Just pick something and stick with it for a while.
they are trying and see whats happening, they did this all the past month and thats the way to go right now.

Structures today feel way better then on regular days.
Wouldn't think anybody is playing extra bc of those special structures today but i stongly believe most recs like it due to more chips and regs like it bc the structure is way smoother.

Anybody has an opinions on this?
03-23-2016 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
Still not able to access the client, would love to be able to play on party(bwin) tonight since pokerstars fcked up today

would mail bwin support but as kingbustyou said earlier, that's likely not getting a response any time today
nvm, reinstalled client and got it fixed
03-23-2016 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by schmette
they are trying and see whats happening, they did this all the past month and thats the way to go right now.

Structures today feel way better then on regular days.
Wouldn't think anybody is playing extra bc of those special structures today but i stongly believe most recs like it due to more chips and regs like it bc the structure is way smoother.

Anybody has an opinions on this?
+1
Add some 55 fos and 11r's plz.
03-23-2016 , 04:49 PM
add a big 55$ FO to your schedule with a big guarantee
add 11$rebuys and 22$ rebuys at some point with a decent guarantee (one could be turbo later during the evening)
Just generally try to offer more tournaments!!!
You are getting a lot of attention at the moment with the recent changes, try to use this to convince more players to play on party on a regular basis with an even better MTT schedule !
03-23-2016 , 05:20 PM
Yeah have just seen the structure changes back tomorrow, I really enjoyed the 30k chip structure with antes from almost the start. Think it would be better to keep that one. Like others have mentioned the other is just too slow at the beginning.

      
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