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Old 04-30-2015, 01:40 PM   #51
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

replace sundays 500$ HR with the 1k, gurantee 100k and put the $500 on tuesdays with a 40k guarantee.
Then move the 320$ to monday+thursday/friday with 25k gtd and good to go

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Old 04-30-2015, 08:04 PM   #52
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Hi all


Week 1 - **Hot Topics**

- 50r- 25k needs to comeback daily
- earlier Ante from latest 50/100 +10
- Sunday Majors take to much time, maybe #2 day Major?
- new MTT-Shed, with 10r 10k 20r 10k (new structures)
- turbo 10+ needs to be later in the shed
- 100 10k needs a comeback
- less reentry tournaments
Absolutely agreed to 50r, earlier ante, 2 day Major, new 10r 20r etc., less reentry tournaments. On the rest I have no opinion.

Good to see the discussion and effort!
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:04 AM   #53
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Hello Kranke

Please see below from the other thread re: High Roller offering

From Monday 4th May we will be adding a High Roller event to our weekly MTT schedule

Tournament name: $30,000 Gtd Super High Roller [Re-Entry]
Buy-in: $1,000 ($950+$50)
Guaranteed Amt: $30,000
Late registration: 8 levels
Time: Mondays @ 14:30EDT
Starting stack: 10,000
Blind levels: 15 minutes
Re-Entry: 1 x Re-Entry

We will use the early ante structure for this tournament



This starts Monday and we will judge the uptake however, HighRoller is a topic under review currently.

Thanks

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I think it's great that a $1,000 tournament was added. I think it would be a lot better if it were a $1,000 super-bounty instead of a re-entry. Or if party really wanted to offer something new and interesting to its schedule, it should offer a $1,000 buy-in as the first progressive knockout tournament offered on party. I personally would play this tournament every week if it were a super-bounty or progressive-bounty. With its current structure/format I am not interested in playing this tournament.

Suggested Change:
Buy-in: $1,000 ($471.5+$28.5+$500)
Starting stack: 10,000
Blind levels: 20 minutes

or

Buy-in: $1,000 ($471.5+$28.5+$500)
Starting stack: 15,000
Blind levels: 15 minutes

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Old 05-01-2015, 04:47 AM   #54
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Please don't put it on Monday. Tuesday Thursday Saturday Sunday are much better days for a 1k. Swap it with the 350 reentry and keep it vanilla not a reentry please
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:52 AM   #55
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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replace sundays 500$ HR with the 1k, gurantee 100k and put the $500 on tuesdays with a 40k guarantee.
Then move the 320$ to monday+thursday/friday with 25k gtd and good to go
This would be so good as it would make the party Sunday game the biggest buyin online that day (Good thing). And sundays is a day where you know the player pool is there online to play it. (Like Tuesdays)

1k re-entry on a Monday with a small GTD is likely gonna die very quickly, if it even gets off the ground.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:13 AM   #56
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

less time for timebanks in turbos and hypers, so much stalling kills these tournaments
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:41 AM   #57
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

***HU for anyone playing the WPT Vegas $565 sats***

Party WON'T provide cash alternatives for any extra tickets won, until you've won six. So you'll get paid in cash for your 7th ticket, once you've a ticket for all six starting days. Party will take the cash on any of your unused tickets after you manage to make it through to day 2, so potential to be out up to $2.5k on unusable tickets if you make it through 1a.

[Confirmed from PartyPoker support]
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:39 AM   #58
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

FR gtd rebuy microstakes nlh and plo mtt @ prime time, like there use to be.

Late reg back to 12 levels instead of 6 for turbo, like it used to be.

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Old 05-01-2015, 10:56 AM   #59
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Some of your structures are too slow. I like good structures, but a tournament starting at 8pm with a 10k startstack that has blinds at 250/500 by midnight when my session is starting to wind down is too deep. I think it hits itm by 3am and is finished at 8 or 9, that's just unnecessarily deep. Take out a few levels at the start, keep the levels and go for a 12/15/20 or 15/20 minute clock or make it a two day event, ending day 1 after about 5 hours. Or start two hours earlier. Plenty of options. Same for some of the pokerfest mtts, deep structures are nice but grinding literally 9 hours to cash 3x your buyin isn't fun. The highroller is even sillier, starts later and has a bigger starting stack. Have literally never considered playing it.

Obviously +1 to the ridiculous 3% cashout fee, makes me not want to play on party out of principle even though obviously the player pool is weak enough to compensate for the 3% easily.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:00 AM   #60
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

yeah 2 day major, and making it a bit less deeper at the start, and better structured in the end, would be a very good change. maybe make it even 25 or 30 min levels in the end, because endgames are too much of a crapshoot in the end.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:32 AM   #61
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

big +1 for better way to filter out all sats, but be able to see all tournaments not just majors
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:51 AM   #62
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is there a way to change the betslider so that it increases per small blind instead of big blind? Basically, I want to be able to 2.5x it pre-flop, without having to type in the numbers manually.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:54 AM   #63
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Hello Kranke

Please see below from the other thread re: High Roller offering

From Monday 4th May we will be adding a High Roller event to our weekly MTT schedule

Tournament name: $30,000 Gtd Super High Roller [Re-Entry]
Buy-in: $1,000 ($950+$50)
Guaranteed Amt: $30,000
Late registration: 8 levels
Time: Mondays @ 14:30EDT
Starting stack: 10,000
Blind levels: 15 minutes
Re-Entry: 1 x Re-Entry

We will use the early ante structure for this tournament



This starts Monday and we will judge the uptake however, HighRoller is a topic under review currently.

Thanks

Colette
this wont be nearly as popular as it should be cos you picked it to be on monday, if you had this on a tues when all the high rollers are playing the super tuesday on stars, the volcanoe $600 $100k on 888, and $109r (€75r) on ipoker all on a tuesday, people will log on for these and see a tues 1k on party and flick that in as well, just IMO but im sure it makes sense when u look at it like that and a high % of MTT regs take monday off to study/cry after a long sunday session
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:04 AM   #64
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Some of your structures are too slow. I like good structures, but a tournament starting at 8pm with a 10k startstack that has blinds at 250/500 by midnight when my session is starting to wind down is too deep. I think it hits itm by 3am and is finished at 8 or 9, that's just unnecessarily deep. Take out a few levels at the start, keep the levels and go for a 12/15/20 or 15/20 minute clock or make it a two day event, ending day 1 after about 5 hours. Or start two hours earlier. Plenty of options. Same for some of the pokerfest mtts, deep structures are nice but grinding literally 9 hours to cash 3x your buyin isn't fun. The highroller is even sillier, starts later and has a bigger starting stack. Have literally never considered playing it.

Obviously +1 to the ridiculous 3% cashout fee, makes me not want to play on party out of principle even though obviously the player pool is weak enough to compensate for the 3% easily.
Party structures are clearly all over the place, even though the tournies take forever to finish the end-game is generally very shallow. It's super super clear that there are way too many early levels, you could even consider cutting as much as half of the levels and putting a bunch in after projected ITM time.

Nothing ever happens during the 10/20, 15/30 levels where everybody is just sitting 500BB deep. I've often noticed that the table VPIP/PFR is under 12/8, which just means that everybody is waiting for significant action to happen.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:37 PM   #65
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Hi all


Week 1 - **Hot Topics**

- 50r- 25k needs to comeback daily
- earlier Ante from latest 50/100 +10
- Sunday Majors take to much time, maybe #2 day Major?
- new MTT-Shed, with 10r 10k 20r 10k (new structures)
- turbo 10+ needs to be later in the shed
- 100 10k needs a comeback
- less reentry tournaments
So i guess the results from the first week are:

-50r: everybody likes to see the 50r coming back, including saturdays and sundays.
- earlier Ante: i think everybody likes to see this to be done
- Sunday-Majors: Beginning structure seems to be too deep while in the lategame its too shallow. Some people like to see a 2day Major too.
Would ask for more opinions on the next week again to get more feedback to this topic?
- new MTT's: 10r 60mins rebuy and 20r with extended rebuy would be a good beginning? Good timespot for a 20r 10k would be have an hour infront or after the 50r? 10r 10k? when at best?

- turbo 10+: nobody cares so next topic?
- 100$ 10k: not sure what people want
- less reentry: yep everybody agrees to that one.

******Hot topics for week 2****
- Highroller MTT's :
1)-1k on Sunday with 100k?
2)- 500$ On tuesday 40k?
3)- 500$ SuperKO on Thursday 40k?
4) -350$ ones on Mo-Wd-Fr-Sat?

-100$ 10k/15k 1RE?`who wants to see this one? timespot : same time as B109 19:00CET ? other opinions?

-Majors on Sunday:
1) Structure too deep at the beginning?
2) Structure too shallow in the end?
3) 2day-Majors for 200$/500$(or1k)? after 7h for the 200$ 6h for the 500$?


Anything else?
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:50 PM   #66
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

btw, i kinda like the daily 109 re entry, don't remove them if you are gonna re-install the 50r on a daily base please. maybe just remove the re entry option there too.
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:00 AM   #67
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- Sync Breaks for all Games, regardness when they started, 50$ satty to the 500 starts at :45 and has no break.
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:06 AM   #68
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it would be great if you could add mtt tickets to the WPT poker store
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:54 PM   #69
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structures of the majors are way too good
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:21 AM   #70
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Hi all,

We have planned maintenance this Tuesday 5th May between 08:00AM and 10:00AM CET on all our poker products,

The maintenance if for planned internal updates - there will be no visible change for our users.

Please note this will impact all of our services resulting in approximately 2 hours downtime - players will e unable to log in and all poker offerings will be unavailable.

Our poker team will be updating the tournament schedule and you will see a reduced offering in our poker room to ensure our MTTS do not run into this planned downtime.

Kind regards,

Colette


PS: I will work on posting Week1 feedback from the team in the next few days, and gather the feedback/questions for Week2

Thanks
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:33 AM   #71
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I only play a handful party tourneys per week but I agree with the structures being too slow. Less early levels and earlier antes should help. The 200k on Sunday takes till 7am to start FT, which is similar to the Million on stars, but that one has 200k up top vs 30k, has way more stalling throughout, and gets through 7-8x as many players in that time. I’m not saying the million has the greatest structure, but if you take out some early levels you could make the tourney slightly faster while not cutting into the stack depth deep in the tourney.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:14 AM   #72
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definitely you chose the wrong day for the 1k. the biggest buyin should be on a tuesday/sunday

agree on bringing back the 50r but give less chips for rebuys to give ppl incentive to play more. when it used to be 10k chips after addon and 50/100 blinds w/ no antes, nothing ever happened in the rebuy period so was hard to invest more than 1r1a

earlier antes is a must

the payout structure is a bit too flat and paying too much of the field
the 100fo 5k usually pays 13 for a 50 players field

350fo-500ko is a bit too big for the current poker economy and player pool
a 150-162fo would fit better

implement hand for hand with 1 player left to bust instead of 2 players ?

sunday majors play way too long. ipoker/ps.fr/wmx all have 2day majors
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:08 AM   #73
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Just checked lobby. The 1k satty doesnt have a single qualy. Wrong day, no qualys, would be a miracle this tournament becomes a success.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:46 AM   #74
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Just checked lobby. The 1k satty doesnt have a single qualy. Wrong day, no qualys, would be a miracle this tournament becomes a success.
+1

Without viable satellites H.R type tourneys have no chance to be anything other then an ego game amongst the very best and will never grow.
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:06 PM   #75
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+10000000
without qualifiers this is not gonna work!

Make at least two main qualifiers close to prime time to attract the recreational players, e.g. 18:30 CET, 109$ satty to 1k, guarantee 3 seats, reevaluate in case there is overlay, make at least 1 hour latereg so it will attract more players, start another 109$ turbo satty around 20:00 CET and guarantee 2 seats as well.
Reevaluate after 2-3 weeks, possibly run a 20$ Rebuy satty on some other days for the 1k, and start having one afternoon satty ~16:30 with 1 seat gtd make it 50$ reentry or 20$ rebuy
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