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No plans to change the schedule, for now, I am aware of, however, as you are aware our offerings are constantly changing following players feedback


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Feel free to send a PM, however, I will be travelling and OOO for 8 days so maybe best to reach out to the customer service team


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Have you tried a full clean removal and reinstallation?
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Colette

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Colette

The schedule is definitely constantly changing but I am 2000000000% certain not because of player feedback. If it was the case then you actually had a good selection of games available.

I like the Schedule, it is obv that for the longrun 1-5years it needs to be improved but for now i really do like it.

What you what for a "good selection of games"?

I have plenty to play on PP right now.

Obv the :30 MTTS would be helpful in the longrun but if they want to push the liquidity into the bigger games it is fine with me.


BTW. only bc the schedule is not reflecting your wishes it does not mean they are not listening to feedback.
They probably look at their data and decide. If players reg more PKO than FO they offer more of them. If players reg more MixMax than RegFO they offer more.
So which games should they offer? If your suggestion increase the numbers, PP will happily implement them, otherwise they will use the data given and feedback from other sources.

So if i am playing MTTs with a buyin from 11$ to 55$ and reg every game from 6pm to 11pm (MET) i can play 9 tourneys so not even 2 games per hour.

Where is the plenty?

How are you supposed to grind in a sample with the current schedule? Let alone "don't support the games you don't like". Then i would have 5 games a day.

As a MTT Player it is impossible to have 100% of your volume on party if you want to grind serious volume except you like to 3-4 table for 12h+

I am sure there would be many people who would love to turn their backs on stars and move all of their volume to party but it seems that party is doing everything to keep them away (to put it in exaggerated terms)

I was able to have 100% volume on Party before they started making their stupid schedule changes 2 years ago. I primarily play $11-$22 MTTs and the maximum amount of games I get in a session on Party is 5 even by playing formats I don't fully support. So where is the selection? If I could play 20ish games before per session on Party, now I can't. I am forced to play other sites if I want my bills paid. I was still OK with the schedule while they had the :30 games in the evening, but they pulled those away, and then they also removed the 22:30 $11 rebuy... For the past week have been considering to leave Party since there is almost nothing left to play.

And just because you have plenty to play doesn't mean that they listen to feedback either.

I think your intentions are good Schmette but if you read the thread I think it's clear that your experience don't represent how most of us feel. The schedule for the last years have been one step ahead and then a sudden change of two step backs. It's true that how many people register something is the deciding factor but it is not true that it is based on player feedback. The way it works is:

1) implement new tournament
2) tournament is not an overnight success and thus gets scrapped and replaced with something else a few weeks later.
3) rinse and repeat, no one has any idea what the schedule is at any time and so no tournaments can grow to a size that satisfies Party.

We have seen zero evidence or even suggestion that new schedules are based on any sort of majority feedback, and it's especially unlikely given that the feedback would have to be the exact opposite of whats on the worlds biggest poker forum from a spread of recs and regs alike. Fields have not been getting bigger, mix-max was introduced then removed, then came back, length was shortened, then back to longer and then shortened again etc. Re-entries was removed and then came etc. If this was truly based on a majority feedback it would not be constantly going back and forth between variations of the same format.

Obviously one can just choose to play somewhere else and that's what I mostly do anyways as Party has the toughest tournaments anyways (hard not to with so many re-entries). But it is curious that between the 9 sites I have that Party is the only one not to have any flagships around their peak in the $20-27 range.

Couldn't have said it better myself and totally agree with everything stated above.

Overall I feel as though the PP schedule is a bit of a 'let-down', especially when you consider that this past year has seen a number of announcements from PP in relation to the MTT schedule and how things would look moving forward yet, it doesn't look anything like what was previously stated currently.

The never ending changes and implementation of various things, only to see them removed again not long after has become tiresome and left me disillusioned with PP.

I want to play more on PP but, each time I look at the schedule I find myself disappointed and seeing that I have so few games to play each day in my buy-in range (or that I actually want to play) since they removed the previously implemented extra buy-in levels, certainly isn't helping matters.

IMO, when it comes to the MTT schedule, PP have taken a number of positive steps forward during 2018 and then ruined it by taking twice as many negative steps backwards.

I can only hope that someone at PP will rectify things and that 2019 won't be a repeat of 2018 when it comes to the MTT schedule.

I think they shoot themselves in the foot with the current setup. As tournaments are only on the hour, it doesn't give players a chance to play very much. They are only giving players 1 or maybe 2 tournaments each hour depending on the players buy in "level".

I think they had good intentions with the tiered buy in's, i think they see it like they give players at all levels a chance to play, which is good, but there are better ways to do it. Players will play more tournaments if they are offered to them. I really hate the tiered system as it restricts so much.

above all of this, the schedule at the most basic level is very very poor, if you play peak time party schedule, it will look something like this;

5pm- Main Event
6pm - Bounty Hunter
7pm - Main Event
8pm - Bounty Hunter Fast
9pm - Main event fast (mix-max)

Tell me one of the biggest poker sites cannot do better? But i am interested in why is it like this? is it down to a lack of experience in creating a schedule? There has to be a reason why it is so poor.

Colette please realise we have nothing to play on your site, tell your team this.

All valid Points, my personal BI-Range is wider so i can choose more games.
As it is right now, you are right, it is impossible to only play on PP, even if you want to.

I completely understand the frustration....

Schmette you either work for party, get commission or are delusional. I have given Party 100% of my action, after playing for a living for 5+ years previously. I would love to remain a loyal customer, but it seems they are doing their v best to get rid of customers. This is really annoying, as Amaya are doing their best to piss off and annoy players, and party should be capitalising on this. Sadly, Party seem to be struggling to offer the bare minimum that plays actually want which is really frustrating.

Alongside their failures for tournaments, it is v clear they don't care as their NL cash games are rampant with bots, and their sats are awful. I wish Pads had taken better control of the mtt schedule and looked at it as a bigger picture rather than what the high stake players wanted.

For now, I shall be cashing out of party and playing elsewhere for the first time in the last two years - and this is 100% due to party messing with their schedule and making it less appealing for regular players.

1) The Point was, that some people seem to believe that Party is not listening to Feedback. My Point was that only he has nothing to play, makes the statement true that they are not listening to feedback. It does not matter how much i can play. They use feedback and or Data which provides them with feedback.

2) Believe me, that my frustrating is sometimes realy big too, Summertime endless marathon Games, constantly changing things, deleting Games and so on.

3)Why is it not true that they are listening to player feedback? Why are you so sure about that? What makes you think that the "Schedule-Team" is that stupid enough to just random click some buttons? Wouldn't it be a bit arrogant to assume that they just stupid people doing random things?

4) Agree that it is somewhat tough to understand the logic behind decisions and that the schedule is changing way too often

Neither i work for Party or get commission and i am far from being delusional.

I get it that PP right now is far from being perfect but i believe that they are capable of getting to be #1 within 5 years. Right now i am not a fang that they've deleted the 00:30 Games, logic must be that they dislike the smallish grt and want to force players into their bigger :00 Games.
Be free to disagree with this.
I personally thing it is important to offer "bigger" grd bc i believe that those Games attract more players.

I dislike not having 11$ Games while having 33$ at the same time and i would believe that they could run more Games 00:30, i've stated this but PP believes that they should not offer a 109/33/11/3,3$ Setup.

I dislike the tone which is coming from dozen of people here @2+2, some people believe they are the center of the world and everything has to be done to fit their wishes. So i am taking the other side right now as i believe it is not helping to bash them over and over again.

Schmette no they are probably not stupid, but what are they doing man? they is hardly anything to play on the site, and its just the same stuff every 2 hours.

Not every tournament needs to be a big gtd and massive field, i would personally prefer if they had more games to play if it meant smaller gtd's and fields. They are getting it so wrong with the current approach. It's a shame and a really big missed opportunity. Why can't they just create a standard schedule like all other sites? Why do we need to have the same tournaments on every hour? It is no wonder why people are so frustrated, a site this big should not have such little choices for players.

I strongly disagree that there is nothing to play on PP. At least in the $33-109 region I have higher volume on party than on stars. Structures are much better, rake is lower, and the Gtds can compete with stars.
Lets just face it: Playing mtts on only one single site in 2018/2019 is not the way to go for regs and whining about it nonstop ITT won't change it.

lol, play <$33 and see if you feel the same way.

I get the frustration, i am sometimes frustrated myself.
It seems PP has the belief that Bigger grt are very important, that's why they've made every single Game during the Summertime a Marathon and increase LR-Times over and over. That was all done to Support their goal nr1, which seems to be: Offer "Big" MTTs. In the latest Approach they've now deleted the "smallish" 00:30 to Support Goal nr1: Do fkn everything to offer big grd.
I would assume that they will get rid of all Rebuys as they are not really working in their minds, 5-7k is not really appealing imo. I think the Structure within the Rebuys should be reworked and blind levels are just too long for the RebuyMTTs [only my personal opionion] [Note to farseer: I AM FKN NOT RESPONSIBLE THAT PARTY WILL DELETED ALL THOSE REBUYS]

So after
1) making every Game a Marathon
2) increase LR-period
3) deletion of 00:30 Games (force PPL into the bigger grt)
They are at step 4 now
4) Implement a functioning Sat-System to Support those bigger grd.

Probably long term vision:
5) Increase traffic due to Promos for lowbuyin recs, sats, promos and so on
6) Grow the bigger grd and reduce RE ( this was said several times, that the goal is to maintain the bigger grt and im the grd is working they reduce RE, which they imo already did to some extension?
7) Build bigger grd to attract more players
8) Add new Game types, Buyin, Time slots [00:30]
9) Increase Brand and traffic
10) in the meantime, improve Support, Works against Bots, Promos, Live-MTTs Brand building, improve Schedule-Team and so on.

They are having a long term Plan as Robs said himself @ Joeingram Podcast, they are having a 5year-plan which they are 2 years in or so, after the 5 years they want to be number 1.

ATM most things suck, bc the players are now the "test persons" for new Game formats, Grd, Software and everything else which was not working.
This sucks for everyone now, as the suffer from being used to know what they want to do and to know what the "market" wants. The Feedback on 2+2 is valid but it is not aligned with their long term vision. So if people argue we want more Games, they cannot offer them right now due to their long term Plans.
That obv sucks for us atm but i truly believe that their approach will work in the long run.

It is true that almost no REG can atm play 100% at Party, exceptions are there obv. As a professional Player you should pick and choose the best Games, support the Games to like [feedback via BI, [Rob said himself people should vote with their BI] and feedback given from selected players is often useless as people differ in their opinions. I see that 2+2 is somewhat reasonable aligned in what they want]. Otherwise atm right now REGS should use every site possible to get their volume going even if they want to only support PP. You can still reg everything you like @ PP and support them by that.

I see a ton of improvements within the software, support, life-mtts and all the other departments and the progress is obv painfully slowly. But zoom a bit out and see what PP was 4 years ago. Imo PP was close to gg, grd where a ****show, maybe the schedule offered more games, but the trend was clearly downwards and to be #3-5 within 5 years.

We should all appreciate the efforts made by the new Team of PP and still support their long term vision while not only be to short-visioned even if its hurts atm brutally for "us" [one more one less].

It is imo Pointless to point out things over and over, Colette is sharing the things with the team and if their team decides they don't want this atm, due to their long term plan, we have to somewhat live with it. It is not helping that people moan for pages over pages here, blaim Pads for so many things where is not really responsible for and attack him on several occasions, while people seem not do "see" or "understand" that he is trying his best. This does not mean that he is perfect but he could help people in the long term very much.

That's only my opinions atm nor work there nor get any benefits from that.

I am reading a lot about Positive Psychology atm and it is fascinating, Their is a Ratio of Positive and Negative things to say. Depending on the Situation the Ratio should be between 3:1 and 5:1 in favor of positive things. Read the Thread here and you will see that the ration here is more like 1:50 or whatever.
I get that people are only writing if something went wrong but the community could change a bit their approach and name some good things Party made so far. This would help, as the negative Feedback is taken way more serious if the ration is between 3:1, if the ratio is like 1:50 people get the "feeling 2+2 is "toxic" and they don't take it to serious anymore but still sharing the feedback.

Imagine you are sitting within the schedule team and every single feedback they get is bad, at some point it is nature that you don't give a **** anymore and listen more to data than to this feedback.

So here are 5 things i a grateful about Partypoker

1) They are competing for Stars which is absolutely fantastic.
2) They are more aligned with the Players than Stars is right now.
3) They are creating a really nice Life-Brand and pushing Live-MTTs into a good direction
4) They are not only about to maximize their own gain but happy with punting money all over the place [ROB: it is better to get 1% of a million, than 5% of 100k]
5) I appreciate the effort made from Colette over the last years, i think she is doing a really nice job out here.


Happy Saturday everyone

( ) Every game a marathon

i don t know what kind of weed you smoke, but for sure it makes you blind.....well the only thing that gives you creditis that u play higher buy ins so you will always feel more happy than the 1-22$ players....

Just the point 1 is enough itself to destroy any attempt from the site to grow ..... a 5$ buy in which takes 4h30 to the money is a waste of time, especially when you can t muti table more than 3 in a let s say standard 4hr window....

your point 4 : well it s a good thing more sats are back, indeed that way it s possible to have 8 tables opened. Having sad that it s super foolish to call an hyper a sat that takes 2hr or more to finish.... misleading ppl again....
People bash me pointing the overlays, well as i said before, it s just because it leads to another change very soon....(no company can sustain thing money by the window). Half the players are registering at the last 20sec.

Right now it s quite ridiculous how tickets are nearly given away, but like in May-June, it s going to last just for a while....

For your 5-10 : I m sorry my dear but all what you mentioned here has been implemented and shortly after cancelled......THIS YEAR...... that s probably where your weed shorten your memory..... all the frustration we have is because of this ....back nd forth .... all 2018 .....

Hi Colette,

The "my account" screen is missing anywhere, so i can't do inter account transfers. i don't know what has happened to it. Mac client. Just wanted to let someone know.

Anyone else having issues? I'm using the website login as a workaround but its a bit annoying.


https://gyazo.com/cf9c0bf424db2d0c0591bcc40ec7bb3e
https://gyazo.com/7f7e50c968f19fe05f8cff5bacd3dd99

Thanks- will raise with tech and get the team on this

Colette

I'd not played on Party Poker for a while, so this could have been changed a while ago, but what's up with the timebank nowadays?!?
Only ten seconds to act postflop (with annoying countdown sound effect starting after just four seconds) is clearly ridiculous, yet there's 20 seconds pre-flop which I don't need
Surely should have been the other way round? Especially now there's extreme stalling at the final stage of the satellite and I feel like it's never going to end :'(
Please swap round the timebank pre and post flop...

Point 1) was made duering the summer and was reversed again, imo Tourney duration are completely fine now [except some special Series]

To call it hyper or turbo is in relation to the regular duration on the site, so i would say its fair to call it "hyper" for 2h a "turbo" for 3h and a "normal" sat 4-6h.

I agree that not all Names of MTTs are making too much sense ....

5-10 are in progess btw. obv that they change things around but that seems the longterm plan they have.

It is fine that you don't agree with me, btw. I would love to see less "personal" attacks.
Calling me delusional, weed smoker and so on is not helpful but at least it makes you feel better, enjoy.

What made the old stars so great was the ability for anyone to grind up a roll , this is nearly impossible within a decent timeframe on party currently when you can barely play a tourney an hour .

On another note having such a massive gap in buyins causes player dissatisfaction because you force people to either play above or below their preferred buyin level .
Personally I'd snap reg any $11-$22 but no way im wasting my time on a $3 tourney .

Does party not realize the total sum of buyins will be a lot higher when there are more tourneys to be played ? You gained like 3 extra players in your $11 main event after removing tourneys that consistently had 150-200+ players , seems super ineffective.

/ end rant