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10-31-2012 , 08:49 AM
Please post your questions, concerns, and suggestions here.

This has been already raised but it deserves its own separate post because it's def a bad re-start for the site.

The guaranteeds are way too pessimistic and they prevent casual players to play again at FTP because they care about guarantees a lot.

Does FTP really assume that only 25 players or less will play the 1k Monday? Same question for the Friday fight.

If they weren't too confident about the numbers, why didn't they start with a Sunday 100k GTD with a 215 buy-in instead of a 3 re-rentry MTT? (which is not a friendly format for casual players).

I am 100% sure the big Sunday 215 can attract 1k players or more and 150% sure they can get 500 players. IMO, it is obvious FTP needs to start with at least one Sunday 215 freezoout MTT that promises a big payout (it works in all other sites and it will also work on FTP).

Last edited by CBorders; 10-31-2012 at 07:56 PM.
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10-31-2012 , 08:51 AM
how can you see the real tournament lobbies?
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10-31-2012 , 09:02 AM
they're obviously starting it low you dolt

your thread rates a D+
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10-31-2012 , 09:04 AM
I can understand the low guarantees to begin with, but what I don't understand is why they've kept MET's, despite universally bad feedback. Who actually enjoys that format?
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10-31-2012 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamil11
how can you see the real tournament lobbies?
They got the guarantees up on the website.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/promoti...-money-sundays
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10-31-2012 , 09:06 AM
So a company goes bust because they mismanaged their money and you expect them to start taking risks again as soon as they return? Come on. The guarantees were always going to be low, even if they smash them for the first two months they won't raise them until the business is back on its feet. It's just good sense, and asking for more is ridiculous.
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10-31-2012 , 09:08 AM
someone to post schedule itt?

Last edited by Erebgil_bg; 10-31-2012 at 09:10 AM. Reason: lol I'm too slow
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10-31-2012 , 09:46 AM
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So a company goes bust because they mismanaged their money and you expect them to start taking risks again as soon as they return?
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10-31-2012 , 09:55 AM
I understand the guarantees being low at first, but very disapointed to see the multi entry tournaments come back. I think this format should only apply to ftops or mini ftops and are useless for daily or weekly mtts.
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10-31-2012 , 10:09 AM
Calm down.


So funny we waited over a year for FTP to come back and everyone to get their money.

Now that it finally happens, FTP is back literally a few hours everyone starts bitching again.
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10-31-2012 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by random_chu
they're obviously starting it low you dolt

your thread rates a D+
As usual, you're derading ppl when you disagree. And, needless to say, I am not alone here.

It shouldn't be obvious to start with these such low Gtds. And it's not only a problem of numbers but also of concepts.

Your biggest weekly MTT shouldnt be a multy-entry one but a reg $ 215 freezout.

I know it's really really hard for you but why dont you try and discuss with good manners. No need to be rude.
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10-31-2012 , 11:18 AM
Lets go to dottie out on the 16th, dottie?

Thanks mark, we have about a 15 footer full of irony here, just outside realism. Its on its way it looks good! He nailed it!!
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10-31-2012 , 11:26 AM
How many people actually care about guarantees?

They always seem like they are broken anyway. If I'm registering for tournies between say $5 and $25 and I see one with a nice structure etc, I will play it. I don't think ''ooo omg the guarantee is too low I'll give it a miss''.
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10-31-2012 , 11:46 AM
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How many people actually care about guarantees?

They always seem like they are broken anyway. If I'm registering for tournies between say $5 and $25 and I see one with a nice structure etc, I will play it. I don't think ''ooo omg the guarantee is too low I'll give it a miss''.
Fish care about guarantees. I care about guarantees since fish care about them. So should you!

Complaining about guarantees when the site hasn't launched yet is ridiculous tho. While I'm sure Pokerstars has a ton of information/tools at their disposal try and estimate the traffic it would be a horrible business decision to aim high. Until they have some concrete data on traffic they should set the guarantees low. No one really knows what damage has been done to their brand and if/how many fish will come back.


If after a few weeks the guarantees get crushed and they don't raise them..complain. Until then, please stfu. FULL TILT IS BACK BE HAPPY
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10-31-2012 , 03:11 PM
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Calm down.


So funny we waited over a year for FTP to come back and everyone to get their money.

Now that it finally happens, FTP is back literally a few hours everyone starts bitching again.
this clearly
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10-31-2012 , 03:17 PM
The site isn't even up yet, nobody knows how many regs and fish are gonna start playing on the site right away.
I'm sure the people responsible for the schedule will take a very detailed look at the fields every day and I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in the guarantees every 2-3 days for a while.

Also guarantees generally work more like a guideline, you can't just triple the guarantee and instantly expect three times as many runners.


Anyway, this is gonna work out just fine and people really need to stop bitching
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10-31-2012 , 04:06 PM
Stars is behind all this,and you expected to have bigger gtd?
Stars is the biggest client and still they have 1/3 gtd of the actual money claimed in every tour.
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10-31-2012 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BakinC00kies
The site isn't even up yet, nobody knows how many regs and fish are gonna start playing on the site right away.
I'm sure the people responsible for the schedule will take a very detailed look at the fields every day and I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in the guarantees every 2-3 days for a while.

Also guarantees generally work more like a guideline, you can't just triple the guarantee and instantly expect three times as many runners.


Anyway, this is gonna work out just fine and people really need to stop bitching
this
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10-31-2012 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BakinC00kies
The site isn't even up yet, nobody knows how many regs and fish are gonna start playing on the site right away.
I'm sure the people responsible for the schedule will take a very detailed look at the fields every day and I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in the guarantees every 2-3 days for a while.

Also guarantees generally work more like a guideline, you can't just triple the guarantee and instantly expect three times as many runners.


Anyway, this is gonna work out just fine and people really need to stop bitching
This exactly. Chill peeps
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10-31-2012 , 06:32 PM
Im sure the pro's and con's of multi-entry tournaments have been discussed many a time on here in the past, but with the relaunch of FTP upcoming and my lack of knowledge on MET's I would like to find out a few opionions.

I am interested to hear what the general consensus is on these (I was looking through a non relevant thread and found some haters). I understand that our equity decreases if we have to merge one of our stacks, but in tournaments with a high number of entrants this seems pretty unlikely. Further, when I read the comments of various people giving the concpet a hard time I just thought, well you dont have to enter more than once.....

Are there really that many haters out there or did I happen to stumble across a minority?
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10-31-2012 , 06:37 PM
Hey METs,

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10-31-2012 , 06:47 PM
METs are terrible and there are discussions elsewhere about why. I hope FTP discontinues them.
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10-31-2012 , 06:49 PM
Lol I think the biggest part is that regs will munti entry and fish will not (or less). And therefor the games will be much harder.
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10-31-2012 , 07:00 PM
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Lol I think the biggest part is that regs will munti entry and fish will not (or less). And therefor the games will be much harder.
Thats the general consensus. There are no plans on removing them from the sunday majors from the look of it right now.. I would be happy if they kept them for a good number of micro/low stakes tourneys and some for medium/high. They are very convienient for players like me who often times play on slower hours where the mtt selection is a lot more limited.
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10-31-2012 , 07:03 PM
I like the concept, you can play your fav. tourneys more than once a day, but I really think games get harder.
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