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06-20-2013 , 04:09 PM
Can Stars stop offering these 75+7 euro deep-hyper sats to regional Live Events. These tourneys are a shove fold fest after 40 minutes and provide terrible value for all players. After a significant sample I find it nearly impossible to imagine that anyone is winning besides Stars.
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06-20-2013 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
x3 3r sunday 500 sats and x3 4r super Tuesday sats only have 45 min late reg, can they be 1 hour late reg like all other x3 sats?
Any reason 4r x3 ept sats don't run everyday like last season?These had good numbers

Will there be sats soon to the weekly turbo?

x3 sats to the sunday warmup possible?

Sats to high stake turbo mtts? These are specially in high demand, specially when hstake turbo fields need to be softened up

Better passport sats with smaller required number of players to start
This would just give even more advantage to late reggers as there it's +EV to reg at the last possible moment in these. Since you are requesting this you're obviously well aware and want to further increase your value at the expense of recreationals who reg at the beginning. In the interest of fairness the late reg should be decreased to 30 min.
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07-01-2013 , 07:20 AM
Bryan, the barcelona MTT sattelites have been in the lobby and running for weeks now. Why aren't there any 2100euro steps yet!?!?! why is it taking so long for them to be deployed?
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07-08-2013 , 09:04 PM
Thought it was time for another post about sats to high bi turbos. For turbos like the $215's I really dont think the hyper sng sats do a good job by themselves of allowing people to sat in cheaply and provide some weaker players to help make the fields a little less reggy. I had a look at the $74 hyper sats to the 18:30 $215 tonight and counted 10 sats that ran with 15 different players ending up winning seats (some won more than 1) but only 2 players ended up playing the mtt. Only offering $74 hyper sngs excludes many recreational players due to the high bi but also mtt regs partly due to the high bi but also because you'll be playing vs regs who specialise in this format and hyper sng sats dont mix well with a mtt schedule. Its always seemed weird to me that you offer hyper sng sats to a load of high bi turbo mtts but zero mtt type sats.

A $3.3 3x+r if it was shown in the $215 lobby would give away at least 5 seats and I'd guess more like 10. If you want you could start it about 2 hours 10 mins before the mtt so winners couldn't unreg. If it was popular you could add a few $1.65 3x+r, $5.5 2x+r, or $11+r.
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07-08-2013 , 09:17 PM
yeah ^^^^^
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07-21-2013 , 05:24 PM
Could you make 2 $74 hypers to the Sunday Supersonic available to register in the lobby from 2 hours before the MTT starts please? Currently there is only 1 available in the lobby and it fills very quickly as the MTT start time is approaching, making it easy to miss a SNG.

On the other hand the $215+R NL Holdem $50K Gtd MTT that starts 30 minutes before the Supersonic has a potentially unlimited number of registering games in the lobby, these hypers run a lot less and only actually need 1 registering game in the lobby to ensure players all sit the same game and make them run more.

The two above tournaments are anomalies in the Sunday SNG schedule so hopefully they can be changed to work effectively as the other hyper sats do already?
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07-23-2013 , 12:43 PM
Weekly last chance $300 sat to the super tuesday please.
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07-26-2013 , 03:32 AM
I was in a Satellite and the target Tourney was 10 minutes from starting.

The Satellite was close to the bubble and a scheduled break was within 3 minutes. Would of meant that after the break, the last players would of busted and everybody would have been placed directly into the running tourney.

Within a minute of the break, it was scrapped and said "Next break 59 minutes"

Players busted and Satellite ended before the target tourney started.

Is there a new Stars policy on last breaks in Satellites, within a target tourney starting window?
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07-26-2013 , 03:35 AM
That's weird and lame if true. Not to mention dangerous and annoying.
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07-27-2013 , 01:07 PM
If you're gonna make VIP Bash satellites that you always claim are supposed to have nice overlay, then giving them a ridiculously high minimum player requirement so that they end up getting cancelled is probably a bad idea
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07-27-2013 , 10:27 PM
Just jumping in to mention hypers for steps 1,2,3 & 4 again
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07-28-2013 , 01:01 AM
I really like the low stakes Sats that you guys are offering to FT's Live Montreal Series. Def. should attract some recreationals to the field. Along with the low stakes sats you also run a 100 Hyper Turbo. I'd suggest changing that to an $82 dollar tourney (perhaps 2x) as the steps program is a viable option for a casual player to get involved.
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08-01-2013 , 02:20 AM
Sats to Montreal poker (for canucks) are oddly fashioned. Enter step 1 for 5, 8, or 10 bucks and you're in a tourney with 10 minute blinds. Succeed to the next level (a 46 dollar entry) and you find yourself in a tourney with 3 minute blinds. Simply ridiculous. Bingo your way to Montreal. Yeah, right.

Seems PS just doesn't want the action. I know I don't want theirs when they construct it like this. They did something similar in 2012 with the online Canadian Championships and it ended up under subscribed (and cost PS money). What Einstein on what island sets up this crapola?
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08-03-2013 , 05:23 AM
I posted this in the wcoop schedule thread, but just now saw this thread and realized it might be better here.

On tuesdays the 153$ 9 man hyper turbo sattelites to the supertuesday are reasonably popular, and they definitely attract a different player pool as to the $357 6max hypersats. During SCOOP you cut this format out, and I think thats a missed opportunity for Pokerstars to attract more action to both the target mtts as the sattelites.

To keep the 153$s wouldnt be such a great trouble I think and a lot of players would appreciate it.

Maybe you can even implement 300$ 9mans to the 2k wcoops to generate more action. But to just keep the 153 around for the 1ks would be really great.
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08-04-2013 , 06:19 PM
I don't understand what's the deal with the "Vip Bash" Satellites. The guarantee of 1 seat is being exceeded by 5 times and as high as 20 times. Is there some sort of value or any unusual incentive to play these that I'm missing. If not I don't get the point of why these are special. I recall a few years ago when extra seats were given. That held some appeal.
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08-04-2013 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Could you make 2 $74 hypers to the Sunday Supersonic available to register in the lobby from 2 hours before the MTT starts please? Currently there is only 1 available in the lobby and it fills very quickly as the MTT start time is approaching, making it easy to miss a SNG.

On the other hand the $215+R NL Holdem $50K Gtd MTT that starts 30 minutes before the Supersonic has a potentially unlimited number of registering games in the lobby, these hypers run a lot less and only actually need 1 registering game in the lobby to ensure players all sit the same game and make them run more.

The two above tournaments are anomalies in the Sunday SNG schedule so hopefully they can be changed to work effectively as the other hyper sats do already?
Why are you ignoring this? Please change it already!
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08-06-2013 , 06:14 PM
Regarding the 530$ 6max PLO:

There are those great rebuy 25 fpp's 3x turbo-satellites to the 55$ Saturday PLO, so I tend to believe that 250fpp's 3x turbos to the 530$ PLO would be great for everyone involved, from regs in the 530$ to recreationals playing the satellite. Also, there could be some cash sat's, preferably reg-speed, since PLO in a normal turbo-structure has lowered expectations and few play...
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08-07-2013 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Why are you ignoring this? Please change it already!
Hello there... not ignoring anything. We've determined the cause of the issue you mentioned (slight technical error in the set-up), and these S&G should fire as intended going forward. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!
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08-07-2013 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
Hello there... not ignoring anything. We've determined the cause of the issue you mentioned (slight technical error in the set-up), and these S&G should fire as intended going forward. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!
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08-08-2013 , 07:38 PM
Hello BryanS-PS,

my englsih-skills are too limited to express my appreciation of the PLO Hi Deep-Satellites to the WCOOP in a way that I would consider appropriate here. I still remember the Stud/Stud8/Triple-Stud Deepstack-Sat's from last year, which enabled me to play the best match of Stud (Triple-Stud, the heads-up for 90 min at the end) that I had ever played. Great playing experience there.
I hope that all of the slightly too few reg speed satellites to plo and "other"-games will be deepstack, that would be the greatest thing I could have imagined.

If all reg-speed PLO/Stud-variant/Mixed-Satellites to the WCOOP will be deepstack (either 3k+ chips or 15min blinds), I will do an 8-Game freeroll in a home-game (50$ winner takes all)

Last edited by Restless-Eggs; 08-08-2013 at 07:44 PM.
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08-10-2013 , 09:13 PM
Can you run 4.44r x3 ept sats everyday of the week like you use to please, and can u cut down the number of entrants needed in 8r x2 super ko sats so they run more often, and finally can you run x3 sats to the sunday warmup
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08-11-2013 , 07:53 AM
Can we have two Step 4 WCOOP satellites to the $320 and $530 events.

The steps satellites are presently just facilitating the higher buy in WCOOP events, and that is limiting traffic. If you add these two step 4 SNG's to Event 55 ($320 NLHE) and Event 58 ($530 NLHE), then assuming you can unregister for T$, you can use these 2 sats to buy in to any $320 or $530 WCOOP event.

I'd be on this all day trying to get into every event ... 25 events are accessible via a Step 4 Sat, along with 23 events that can be bought directly with a Step 4 ticket.

That's 48 of the 66 events accessible via Step 4.

Thanks.

EDIT:

Step 4 to Event 55 ($320)

6 Seat Turbo / Reg, Top 3 win $320 seat + change to 4th place (~$240)

Step 4 to event 58 ($530)

6 Seat Turbo / Reg, Top 2 win $530 seat + Change to 3rd place (~$140)

Last edited by JA24; 08-11-2013 at 08:07 AM.
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08-11-2013 , 01:11 PM
you're suggesting $215 sats to a $320 and a $530? Don't you mean Step 3?

Last edited by LostOstrich; 08-11-2013 at 01:12 PM. Reason: oh i see, you mean 6max stts, ignore me
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08-11-2013 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
you're suggesting $215 sats to a $320 and a $530? Don't you mean Step 3?
No Step 4. Has to be Step 4 IMO.

Those Sats would fit better in the Steps format, and they would encourage higher traffic in Steps 1,2 & 3. This has been a big problem since Black Friday.

Only Steps 1 & 2 run regularly. The Steps will become healthy again only when Step 3 games runs often. That is what feeds traffic into the higher steps and satellites.

Not a fan of Step 3 satellites. I'd like to see all Step 3 "buy-out" satellites abandoned and force all the Step traffic through Step 3. Then, in addition to the $215 Step 4 ticket, there are 2 or 3 options to satellite into mid-high stakes games (T$320-T$530). Step 3 satellites are bad for the step system because they arrest the upward movement of traffic at too early a stage. all you get is Step 1's and 2's.

The higher traffic will then be able to feed more traffic into the Step 5's (which should also contain satellites to the higher stakes WCOOP and MTT's) as more players mean more people taking shots at high stakes MTT's and Step 5/6 Live Tourney's.

Currently the Step 5's and 6's hardly ever run. Traffic attracts traffic.

Last edited by JA24; 08-11-2013 at 01:56 PM.
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08-11-2013 , 02:26 PM
Right now the Steps are dead. They've been dead since Black Friday. We need to find a way to re-invigorate the system and get people playing.

The perfect Step structure would be:

Step 1 (normal, no satellites)
Step 2 (normal, no satellites)
Step 3 (normal, no satellites)
Step 4 (normal)
+ Step 4 Satellite to a daily/weekly $320 MTT (withdrawable as T$)
+ Step 4 Satellite to a daily/weekly $530 MTT (withdrawable as T$)
+ Step 4 Satellite to low buy in Live events (~$300-700)
Step 5 (normal)
+ Step 5 Satellite to $1050 MTT (withdrawable as T$)
+ Step 5 Satellite to low-mid range Live events (~$700-3000)
Step 6 (normal)

Players need to be able to step out at a level that suits them. Lower stakes players will look to the Step 4's, mid-stakes players will look to the Step 4's & 5's, and the guys looking for WSOP and EPT seats will have more traffic to play with at Step 6 if we can get more people involved at all levels.

Step 3 is the key to the success of the Steps IMO. The more traffic you funnel into Step 3, the better it will be for all stakes.
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