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Old 05-09-2009, 03:31 PM   #301
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I'll take losing players with retarded thought processes over good solid players any day... That's the ole "I can't beat micros because they play too bad, I need to move up in stakes" argument.
There is something to be said for understanding your opponent. As well as the fact that most MTT' regs probably focus much better on the 1K's, 100R's.
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:38 PM   #302
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There is something to be said for understanding your opponent. As well as the fact that most MTT' regs probably focus much better on the 1K's, 100R's.
Your focus is up to you. There's nothing says you can't focus in a 150 freezeout. Everything else you've said cuts both ways. You understand them, they understand you. You get to know them, they get to know you.
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Old 05-09-2009, 04:23 PM   #303
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I think you guys are missing a lot of the main reasons why people play MTT's. They do it for the hopes, the dreams, the competition, the masochistic pleasure, and of course the action. Money is overrated, just because we use it as our scorecard doesn't mean it should determine our success and enjoyment with life. Being a bum isn't so bad as long as you're enjoying it. I'm sure 80+% of the people in this thread could be much better off financially if they did certain things differently, but who cares as long as you're having fun? Most of us don't really have any other responsibilities, we're young and single so why not spend a few years seeing if we can make it? And if we can't, oh well, it was fun while it lasted and we're all smart enough to be able to get by doing something else.
yup.... ride it out til the wheelz fall off.
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:26 PM   #304
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QFT, when I decided to play full time I was making like 2-3k a month and insta turned down a job with a salary over 100k to start cause I like what I do.
That's cool, but would you advise anyone in a similar situation today to go that route? I def. wouldn't
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:52 PM   #305
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Obviously the answer is who knows? but i'd be inclined to think daut would be doing just fine almost always without the pca score
No one said he is not good.
He is good.
This thread is about variability and people stuck.
My post was about his mother being risk adverse may be a good thing if he wants to use his stash to stake friends in HS MTTs.
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:54 PM   #306
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I think you guys are missing a lot of the main reasons why people play MTT's. They do it for the hopes, the dreams, the competition, the masochistic pleasure, and of course the action. Money is overrated, just because we use it as our scorecard doesn't mean it should determine our success and enjoyment with life. Being a bum isn't so bad as long as you're enjoying it. I'm sure 80+% of the people in this thread could be much better off financially if they did certain things differently, but who cares as long as you're having fun? Most of us don't really have any other responsibilities, we're young and single so why not spend a few years seeing if we can make it? And if we can't, oh well, it was fun while it lasted and we're all smart enough to be able to get by doing something else.
I agree with this but I think most Poker Players underestimate how easy it is to remove your self from the poker world and into the real world. At least thats what I have found that for myself over the last 2 years.
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:57 PM   #307
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Think about some of the donks that are in backing deals that they can't play cash games on their own!
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Old 05-09-2009, 07:18 PM   #308
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Your mother is smarter than you think.
One day you will thank her.

Take away the PCA score, where would you be today?
before pca i made a little over 100k in online cash, so if i didnt have the score i wouldnt have started staking people. i prob would have never kept playing tournaments, would have never staked people, and would have grinded away at cash and made a couple hundred k a year. would prob still be in grad school.

i manage my money very well and theres no way i would have been in any financial danger if i hadnt lucksacked a wpt. i mean for christs sake i still live at home, ive made enough to buy a few houses for myself but i havent, i dont have a car of my own, dont own a watch, never play nosebleeds (besides some 200/400 plo when i only had 25% of myself). theres no way id ever be busto i never degen/spend enough money to be. not like im allen kessler either, i dont care when i do spend money on expensive vacations/restaurants/friends etc but i just dont need stuff others do to make me happy.

the point i was making with the stuff about my mom was, given the situation was completely foreign to her, i should not have followed her advice when shes really clueless about backing/poker variance and doesnt understand that my risk of ruin with taking that money out is nill (as i a) am not adding new horses, b) have partners to reduce variance, c) am still a winning player and d) get a lot of rakeback ) but im going to have some variance with it, so instead of understanding it she just dismisses it and tortures/torments me about doing anything with it.

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Old 05-09-2009, 07:21 PM   #309
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This thread is making me feel much better about keeping a regular job and playing limited schedule of MTTs. On the other hand, I have to go to the office now (Saturday evening)
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:24 PM   #310
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That's cool, but would you advise anyone in a similar situation today to go that route? I def. wouldn't
I haven't played the circuit enough to hate it yet, we'll see after the wsop...
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:37 PM   #311
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good thread... I am a part time player with full time job and this thread has been one of the few that gives noobs like me a glimpse into the underbelly of poker, especially online poker.

Ty ladies and gent for the honest discussion
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:38 PM   #312
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I think you guys are missing a lot of the main reasons why people play MTT's. They do it for the hopes, the dreams, the competition, the masochistic pleasure, and of course the action. Money is overrated, just because we use it as our scorecard doesn't mean it should determine our success and enjoyment with life. Being a bum isn't so bad as long as you're enjoying it. I'm sure 80+% of the people in this thread could be much better off financially if they did certain things differently, but who cares as long as you're having fun? Most of us don't really have any other responsibilities, we're young and single so why not spend a few years seeing if we can make it? And if we can't, oh well, it was fun while it lasted and we're all smart enough to be able to get by doing something else.
I love this post a lot. I play poker because i really like it. I always have been extremely competitive. Played basketball all my life and blew both of my knees out extremely early (I'm turning 21 in July) and now can't do much but shoot around. I decided to push myself really hard in poker because winning a tournament gives me that feeling i used to get when you when basketball games. Those that know me know i have great opportunities when I get out of college but I might choose to be a bum and make a lot less money playing poker because it makes me happy.

Being happy is what life is about anyways right?
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:47 PM   #313
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I haven't played the circuit enough to hate it yet, we'll see after the wsop...
Um, forget about that. I'm asking what you would recommend to your average friend/acquaintance with a choice to take a 100K-a-year (starting pay?!) job or to embark on a life of MTT grinding, you'd suggest he try the latter?
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:49 PM   #314
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Um, forget about that. I'm asking what you would recommend to your average friend/acquaintance with a choice to take a 100K-a-year (starting pay?!) job or to embark on a life of MTT grinding, you'd suggest he try the latter?
depends what % of the time you spend playing in europe/asia/south america and what % on your couch being miserable
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:10 PM   #315
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depends what the 100k a year job is obv is the hugest factor imo
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