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Old 03-04-2011, 12:44 PM   #1
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Max Katz organized paid MTT ghosting in Russia

Lot of people nowdays are having business with Max Katz. He started a popular blog/well on 2+2:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...s-well-981716/
I think it will be useful for everyone dealing with him to know that he organized paid ghosting on major poker sites and openly wrote about it in his Russian blog. These entries are deleted from the blog now, but Google cache did not forget them (russian).

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Did you get to the final stage of a tournament? Let us help you!
A couple of times I got messages from some people after they got deep in the online tournaments, and we played together, talking on skype or phone. It went good.
Right after this I thought to myself: why don't we do it more often? It is good for everyone: a player, my team and the poker community in general
Myself, John or Chai are ready to help you by phone or skype whenever we are not busy.

Max Katz
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...g/note/128229/(russian)

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The news from the ghosting project.
The project is on air for a week now. I must say I didn't expect such a fever: during the last 8 days we never had a day off. They wrote us from smaller tournaments ($3R, $5R, $10 freezout), they did from bigger ones too ($1000 freezout, $200R and $100R, including various sunday ones).
Actually I don't care which tournament to ghost. When there are a few people left and the 1st prize is acceptable, then it's even an advantage if the tourney is cheap, cause all the opponents are so weak and easy to beat. It was fun to play one in top-12, which started with 4000, 3 people were limping with 5M and folding to a raise.
The business goes good. 5 times of 11 we made in to top-4 (after we took control from 60-90 left), two times we have won big (18k and 26k) and 4 times a bit less (1500-5000). It appears to be very interesting to play with someone and I am very pleased with the project so far. People are pleased to learn too.
The project is ongoing, you are welcome to write me on ICQ (172-395-842, always invisible) or skype (Max_Katz) on ghosting or whatever else.
If any of you are worried about being blamed by the community or the sites after they deal with us, I want to say that neither community nor the sites will ever come know you had business with us.

Max Katz

Max Katz is absolutely cynical and amoral person, who participated in different marginal, unethical and illegal businesses in Russian poker community.
I only quoted the most surfaced facts, confirmed by his own words. There are many more. Most of the respected players in Russian poker community dont work with Max Katz because of it.

Now he switched to an American market.

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Old 03-04-2011, 12:45 PM   #2
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:54 PM   #4
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In b4 denial.
Interesting that someone 'whiter than white' turns out not to be though. Shocking turn of events.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:04 PM   #6
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:06 PM   #7
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does this **** always go on?
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:09 PM   #8
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:11 PM   #9
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really disapointed to hear this cant see a logical explanation hope there is, when was the date of these posts and who is he referencing by the other names listed
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:27 PM   #10
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really disapointed to hear this cant see a logical explanation hope there is, when was the date of these posts and who is he referencing by the other names listed
You can read the posts in Russian via google translate.

The date is July 2009.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:35 PM   #11
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:35 PM   #12
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in b4 this thread explodes

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Old 03-04-2011, 01:37 PM   #13
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So should those of us with reserves sold to Max open them up again? Is this enough for us to ostracize him from the community?
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:41 PM   #14
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Russian Spy IMO!
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:41 PM   #15
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LOL...everyone shouldn't really be surprised...this goes on anytime, anywhere mtts are being played and people have an interest through selling or backing. You think all the midstakes grinders who are backed by hsmtt guys aren't getting ghosted by the superstars when 200k is on the line? Get real. Pretty stupid to post about it, but let's get real...cheating is rampant in rigged online pokers.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:44 PM   #16
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God dammit too many threads to follow
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:44 PM   #17
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Hi there sterano....

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LOL...everyone shouldn't really be surprised...this goes on anytime, anywhere mtts are being played and people have an interest through selling or backing. You think all the midstakes grinders who are backed by hsmtt guys aren't getting ghosted by the superstars when 200k is on the line? Get real. Pretty stupid to post about it, but let's get real...cheating is rampant in rigged online pokers.
man I guess I am doing it wrong...I lose all on my own!
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:47 PM   #19
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btw it was long time ago like 2 years ago when Max did this.
Im not Kaz fan but wtf this thread full of envy LMAO
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:48 PM   #20
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LOL...everyone shouldn't really be surprised...this goes on anytime, anywhere mtts are being played and people have an interest through selling or backing. You think all the midstakes grinders who are backed by hsmtt guys aren't getting ghosted by the superstars when 200k is on the line? Get real. Pretty stupid to post about it, but let's get real...cheating is rampant in rigged online pokers.
yea, this is wrong. It's one thing to privately ghost a horse....its probably another thing to publicly advertise your services as a ghoster in attempts to profit more off random people.

Both are wrong, one seems worse.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:51 PM   #21
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one moment.
he was doing this like 1-2 years ago , I rly rly doubt hes doing this now . its noneed for man who already earned like 1-2million...

he earned like this or something like that.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:56 PM   #22
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one moment.
he was doing this like 1-2 years ago , I rly rly doubt hes doing this now . its noneed for man who already earned like 1-2million...

he earned like this or something like that.
there is so much fail in this. i dont know where to begin.

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Old 03-04-2011, 01:56 PM   #23
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No we should.but I just want to let you know tht it WAS but hes not doing it now.
and yes ghostign sux
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:56 PM   #25
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theres gotta be a way for ps/ftp to address ghosting how long can this status quo go on
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:58 PM   #26
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:59 PM   #27
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No we should.but I just want to let you know tht it WAS but hes not doing it now.
and yes ghostign sux
lol your an idiot. That was all gathered from the op. Your not realising that 'when' is unimportant, just tht he has allegedly done it.
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:03 PM   #28
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doubt any1 cares about kaz ghosting 2 years ago in 30$ mtt lol.
but in fact I disrespect this.
maybe Im talking not correctly..
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doubt any1 cares about kaz ghosting 2 years ago in 30$ mtt lol.
but in fact I disrespect this.
maybe Im talking not correctly..
"They wrote us from smaller tournaments ($3R, $5R, $10 freezout), they did from bigger ones too ($1000 freezout, $200R and $100R, including various sunday ones)."

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:07 PM   #30
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/pr...gnore&u=208181

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:18 PM   #31
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I know that some people think that i could write this post as i have Backing Fund also, but i must be a big idiot to do this under unnamed account - everyone in Russia know about our two Funds and there would be a ton of negative in sitiation like this. So i think its a great situation for Max Katz haters who can post thread like this and everyone can think on me.
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I know that some people think that i could write this post as i have Backing Fund also, but i must be a big idiot to do this under unnamed account - everyone in Russia know about our two Funds and there would be a ton of negative in sitiation like this. So i think its a great situation for Max Katz haters who can post thread like this and everyone can think on me.
Huh....
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first thing that comes to mind is, what a bellend

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:26 PM   #36
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~1,5 years ago I had a lot of coaching projects (didn't coached myself, had partners that done it).
At some point one of the players asked us to make lessons for him about the final stage of the tournament, during one, with our regular hourly rate. We made, it went well (final stages usually are the most difficult part and it is very difficult to explain something not during the game).

In one of my advertisements I published, that we now making final stage coaching too. It worked a week or two, then one of my haters (may be this one) started to scream that we cheating, and this called "ghosting".

Discussions opened, I disagreed in the start with the idea that if someone help to somebody else during a tournament it is the same as cheating with cards in offline. As far as I know good players always help their friends in final stages, at least all my Russian friends done so, and a lot of cash and SNG coaches making their lessons during sessions.
But then I received an e-mail from Stars explaining this issue, understood what are the problems in it, and closed the project after ~2 weeks and ~10 sessions, started to give lessons only after the tournament as Stars advised.

I didn't thought that coaching like this is unacceptable at that point, and explanations by my Russian coulegues I never considered as serious, because they always screams that all my projects are bad, including the share buying or selling .
It definitely was a mistake to open this project and of corse big mistake to try to protect it publicly, I been just wrong.
Since then it used always by my haters with a lot of lies as usual (like as I done huge project with hundreds of tournaments, built a system and still doing it).

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pyjka,

you really couldn't be more wrong in this thread.
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Why are people who cant read russian leaving opinions like they know whats going on?
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Why are people who cant read russian leaving opinions like they know whats going on?
you know of that thing called a translator correct?
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you know of that thing called a translator correct?
are you retarded? honestly i wont be mad if you are just want to know what im dealing with..

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yea as long as you wont be mad, ill just say im retarded.

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You gotta admit, he's responded quickly to his accusations more than anyone else who has had to discuss "wtf do we do now" with the people involved. I find him innocent of all charges!
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yea as long as you wont be mad, ill just say im retarded.

feel better now?
No because you're still a giant ****ing dolt and its very bothersome

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Straight up reply by MaxKatz.
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You gotta admit, he's responded quickly to his accusations more than anyone else who has had to discuss "wtf do we do now" with the people involved. I find him innocent of all charges!
chopsueyy, can I have an ignore link for this joker too please?
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i dont see how they can stop ppl from talking over the phone or aim/fb :/
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No because you're still a giant ****ing dolt and its very bothersome
oh...that seems kinda troublesome

anyway, ill fade into the mist to make your day brighter kleath, just for you!
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anyway, ill fade into the mist to make your day brighter kleath, just for you!
yea **** off ******
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