think i effed this hand up pretty bad.

v was playing 23/17/9 in 250ish hands

It may seem nitty but I think I'm folding pre against a larger stack oop
The ICM situation is so bad for us here

folding pre is lolbad. think you played it fine OP

Basically that ^^... Dunno if I'm barrelling the turn but its fine . Have to give up on the river for sure

2x raising that hand is fine. with icm considerations in play just don’t get your whole stack in there and you’ll be fine. but deffientily a hand you want to see a flop with with that villain playing that range. c-bet on flop is pretty basic but as above^^ same thing, don’t think I’m barrelling the turn.

Well maybe

I appreciate that I am going against the consensus of probably better players than me - but the problem with this spot is as huffington post says we can't afford to get it in on virtually any board. We're playing with one hand tied behind our back and if V is any good he should know this and be able to exploit it.

The line that seems to be emerging as consensus is raise pre - c bet and then give up when called - But this is horribly exploitable - Because V can be floating the flop so wide we almost have to barrel the turn to avoid this - But then as in this case we have to barrel off 1/3 of our stack to find out we're not going to win this one.

I don't like either line over much so I don't think a fold pre in this particular spot is terrible

Completing this alot of the times pre

As played x/f turn, as played nh

Folding pre is nut worst option

thats not really how icm works..

my thoughts too

How so?