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Old 01-06-2010, 08:20 AM   #51
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Nice chart, but I'm not a Push Bot, things will get very boring and regs will get more read on your push range.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:29 AM   #52
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:46 AM   #53
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the new developments itt are uplifting.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:58 PM   #54
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why can't we just see some flops
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:28 AM   #55
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why can't we just see some flops
Because so many new players have no post flop skill, they think the game is won/lost strictly from preflop play, hence the love for push bot charts.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:09 PM   #56
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Because so many new players have no post flop skill, they think the game is won/lost strictly from preflop play, hence the love for push bot charts.
bring your sarcasm detector in for a recalibration.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:23 PM   #57
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Because so many new players have no post flop skill, they think the game is won/lost strictly from preflop play, hence the love for push bot charts.
Or too many people think raise folding with 8bbs behind is proper strategy. If I am correct this chart was made based on 45 man turbo SNGs which do not exactly boast a great structure for post flop play. What post flop skill can realistically be utilized when the average stack is 12-15 after the first couple levels?

Sorry, but 45 man SNGs ARE won and lost pre flop imo.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:39 PM   #58
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the version found in the google link above is NOT the new version jcm4ccc is talking about in this thread...

Could someone please post a link to this or pm me so I can tell you where to send it? I am just beginning to play MTT and would like to learn to use these charts.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:51 PM   #59
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:07 PM   #60
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You can use PusPot with these charts now.
http://www.pokerhub.org/pushpotdocs/setup.aspx
Questions or issues please just let me know.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:35 PM   #61
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Does anyone that uses these charts use a program that shows you your M on all of your tournament tables? Something like PokerShortcuts or anything else.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:44 PM   #62
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You can use PusPot with these charts now.
http://www.pokerhub.org/pushpotdocs/setup.aspx
Questions or issues please just let me know.
can someone verify this or whatever before i install an exe on my computer
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:05 PM   #63
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For others that have used it.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...e-easy-696102/
http://forum.parttimepoker.com/shoot...ml#post7025758
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:52 PM   #64
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:58 PM   #65
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Because so many new players have no post flop skill, they think the game is won/lost strictly from preflop play, hence the love for push bot charts.
I agree with this. Just because you only have 7.3 big blinds does not mean you can't limp, or make a normal raise. I think alot of people underestimate the value for instance of minraising and folding to an allin in that situation.

Cmon play a little poker....
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:22 PM   #66
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I agree with this. Just because you only have 7.3 big blinds does not mean you can't limp, or make a normal raise. I think alot of people underestimate the value for instance of minraising and folding to an allin in that situation.

Cmon play a little poker....
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:03 PM   #67
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:57 PM   #68
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Does anyone that uses these charts use a program that shows you your M on all of your tournament tables? Something like PokerShortcuts or anything else.

Anyone???

If not...how are you guys calculating your M when you go to look at the chart while playing a ton of tables?
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:22 PM   #69
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Anyone???

If not...how are you guys calculating your M when you go to look at the chart while playing a ton of tables?
If you know the size of the antes, a rough M calculation isn't that hard to do mentally.

Just look at the pot number before anyone else is in.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:08 AM   #70
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Re: Latest Push-Bot Charts

I don't suppose anyone has a similar chart for 6-max hyper sats? Where you only start with 3.7M?
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:23 AM   #71
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why can't we just see some flops
im a big fan of calling the blinds and seeing a flop, reduces bad beats
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:41 AM   #72
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I continually get knocked out on the bubble so I am trying to figure the proper push or fold procedure when it gets down to the final four players. does this chart work single table SNG.
The chart is based on chip equity rather than $ equity so the answer is no, it isn't necessarily correct for STTs because of ICM. It is however pretty awesome for mtts.


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Old 05-26-2010, 01:45 AM   #73
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:05 AM   #74
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