You may be right, but that's part of the process. As the user of the charts, it is up to you to make sure the calling range is correct. If the calling range that you think is correct is not represented on the chart, then you have to do the math yourself with pokerstove or something.

You are right, people are calling shoves lighter than they used to.

Another issue here is the calling range. Like for example if the assumed calling range is QT+, K9+, 22+, A8+, then that's not really accurate for 99 UTG with an M of 30. The accurate calling range is more like QQ+, AK. And that's it. So it changes the math dramatically. But like was said before, the old charts provided 3 different calling ranges, and it's up to you to figure out which one (or in this case none) applies.

this

If someone is willing to host it, I can provide a more user-friendly chart.
I calculated the calling ranges of the opponents based on a study I did of the $60 45-man turbos. What I did was to search hand histories for times when a player pushed for 3 – 10M in an unopened pot, and was called by someone who was not short stacked. I noted the hands that the player called (not what the player pushed with, but what they called with).
So, for example, here is some data for QQ – AA:

AA: 19
KK: 14
QQ: 22
My assumption was that nobody ever folded these hands in this situation. These hands, on average, occur 18 times every 1326 hands. I counted 55 instances of these hands in a particular situation, so I think it’s a fair assumption that, in the histories that I looked at, a total of 4051 opportunities occurred (55*1326/18) in which someone might have called the preflop pusher. Using that number, it’s easy to calculate the number of times someone actually called with a particular hand and what that represents in percentages.

For example, each pair should occur 18 times for every 4051 hands. So if I see only 6 pairs of twos, for example, I can assume that the likelihood that someone with twos will call your push is 33% (6/18).

As an example of the calling ranges that I calculated, this is the calling range if you are pushing from the 4th position or later (4 positions from the BB), and your opponent is NOT in the blinds:

JJ-AA; AKs-AQs; AKo: 100%
77-TT; AQo: 78%
55-66; A7s-ATs;ATo-AJo;KQo: 36%
22-44;A5s-A6s;KTs-KQs;QJs;A6o-A9o;KJo-KTo;QJo: 8%

This means that, if your opponent is holding QJo, 92% of the fold he will fold to your push, and 8% of the time he will be an idiot and call you.

jcm, your old charts were incredibly helpful to me before I was comfortable enough to pushbot by feel, and it's nice of you to share this as always. If you do manage to host an updated set of charts, I'd be interested in a copy.

bump for updates

The OP sent my eyes into a epeletic fit!
Looks intesting tho and will defo look again after my eyes get better

Do these also reflect blinds and antes when you double through?

thanks so much.

is there any formatted version of this yet? (The previous edition as PDF would suffice)

god i don't get any of thus stuff

Thanks a lot for posting this Jcm! Very generous of you. Like all of the others have said...the old charts in the PDF format were outstanding and would love to get a version of that with this newly updated chart.

I can host the PDF file if needed.

i wish i could read it

Made excel version of this, if anyone wants it just PM me.

I still don't understand how to read this chart. Can anyone explain it better. What do M's stand for? Are these the number of BB you have left or are they different. Any help is appreciated.

To calculate your M you take your stack divided by the total number of chips it will cost you per orbit. So, Your Stack / SB + BB + (Ante * # of players)

For example: Say the level is 200/400 Ante 50 and nine players
You take 200(sb) + 400(bb) + 50*9(antes) = 1050

So then you would take your stack and divide it by 1050. So say you have 6000 in chips, your M would be 6000/1050 = 5.7.

Thanks for the help with understanding M. Having said that, does this chart work for single table SNG's as well. when I test the numbers on an icm calc the figures don't match up.

Thanks JCM, I have recently been working through the old pdf version and would be interested in an updated version in a similar format.

Love your work

Anobody got the PDF and can ship?

+1

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sourc...0718907b4ba39b

first result

theres also a HTML version which I find much better as you can search it using a web browser.

the version found in the google link above is NOT the new version jcm4ccc is talking about in this thread...

I continually get knocked out on the bubble so I am trying to figure the proper push or fold procedure when it gets down to the final four players. does this chart work single table SNG.

Nice chart, but I'm not a Push Bot, things will get very boring and regs will get more read on your push range.