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Old 02-25-2010, 06:19 AM   #346
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

You missunderstood this 50% part.

50% you will get a share of his winnings.
50% you wont.

You lost the coinflip
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:28 AM   #347
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

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You can all say what you want about me staking a 16 year old but at the time I staked him he was 15 and a lot better than most of the guys who win these big tournies. I saw a money oppurtunity and I took it and everyone else would of. I am not scum for staking him it was a bussines decision and it paid off, I am just trying to collect what I am owed. If most people knew a 16 year old kid was scamming them out of $115,000 they would get a gun and a lawyer the rest would be history! If he loses the money its his fault for trying to f.uck me over, I tried to help him while making some money and I am getting screwed now!
lol @ you thinking he is 16.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:04 AM   #348
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

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The reason players get staked is because they do not have the initial capital to invest. When a player ships an insane amount of money, there is no need to seek future staking capital from the initial backer.

A horse will only ship funds back to the backer if he seeks to benefit by having future staking opportunities. In this case, the horse no longer needs the backer, so it is illogical to ship any funds at all.

Your argument is that well, "we struck an agreement and now he is not paying up" .. Damn straight he isn't why the hell would he? Let's do a cost-benefit analysis here..

By him shipping you $115k his bankroll takes a -$115k hit

By him keeping the $115k, his bankroll remains at $230k
By him keeping the $115k, he loses future backing opportunities from you which he no longer needs. Your use value has dried up.

Now one may suggest, that what JackQKA did (if true) is unethical, immoral, scum etc.. Here's a lesson in business.. Business has no ethics, morals or virtues.. There is no such thing as the right or wrong; there is no such thing as good business. What it comes down to is maximizing ones potential profit at any cost. In this case, the cost of chincing you on your piece of the pie has substantial benefits.

Money is the root of all evil, don't act surprised. His greed is in conflict with yours. For if you were in his position, I'm sure you would do the same thing.

Lets not kid ourselves here.

Welcome to the real world.
QF hopefully anyone seeking to do a trade or any kind of business deal with Ophidion realizes they will definitely get scammed.
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:16 PM   #349
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

OP! uses! way! too! many! exclamation! points! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that being said, i feel very comfortable using one here: you, sir, are an idiot!
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:08 PM   #350
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

Who the f is zeppy and where is this info coming from?
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:09 PM   #351
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

pretty sure he's a random
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:19 PM   #352
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**** just got real!

what are the potential consequences if they are found to be the same person?
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:53 PM   #353
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

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Who the f is zeppy and where is this info coming from?
he's nobody, and he's trying to be funny. took me a while to figure it out. he's trying to make statements that sound like they're saying something but aren't. for example:

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Just confirmed that JackQKA's FTP account is in good standing and passed all verifications conducted prior to the FTOPs.

zeppy
this is obviously the case, because had JackQKA failed any verifications prior to the ftops, they wouldn't have let him play in the ftops.

so just ignore zeppy.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:59 PM   #354
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

If this guy is the same dude on his p5's profile picture then there is zero chance he is 16 or whatever. Saw him at a live event recently and he's well over 20 for sure.
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:36 PM   #355
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

just keeps on getting better.
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:04 PM   #356
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

I do not know what is really going on! I did not want to post this earlier because I thought it was irrelevant but I did not ship the money on Full Tilt, it was shipped through Pokerstars, I sent $300 to a player JackQKA on Pokerstars, he then told me he had the same name on Full Tilt! I also talked to the kid who I was friends with and I am still not sure but he told me basically to get the f.uck out he does not play. I am really very upset, I did not take a loss really except the fact I thought I was getting $115,000.. I will continue to investigate this, and I have hired a third party investigator to find out what is really going on! If it is found it is not JackQKA on Tilt I will post a public apology on my real name on here and send you one through the mail! I will update this as soon as I know something more! J
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:09 PM   #357
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

ugh so bored
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:12 PM   #358
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Re: JackQKA FTOPS Main Event Champ Is A SCAMMER,LIAR,CHEAT

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I do not know what is really going on! I did not want to post this earlier because I thought it was irrelevant but I did not ship the money on Full Tilt, it was shipped through Pokerstars, I sent $300 to a player JackQKA on Pokerstars, he then told me he had the same name on Full Tilt! I also talked to the kid who I was friends with and I am still not sure but he told me basically to get the f.uck out he does not play. I am really very upset, I did not take a loss really except the fact I thought I was getting $115,000.. I will continue to investigate this, and I have hired a third party investigator to find out what is really going on! If it is found it is not JackQKA on Tilt I will post a public apology on my real name on here and send you one through the mail! I will update this as soon as I know something more! J
And then you woke up
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:19 PM   #359
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vwp

i was actually looking for a gif that had that this exact moment and failed miserably
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:20 PM   #360
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i dont know which part is funnier

1) you think this thread will get you paid
2) you outted him as an underage player
3) you railed the espn poker club
hahahahahaha 3 obv
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