Grinding out large donkaments.

[pkratitsbest]

3500.

[highpsiguy]

Originally Posted by mo3rtelmu

pretty sure i had atleast two 500abi downers (10k w 20abi), but i like to be a degen on sundays...

this is somewhat encouraging to hear...

[Breanne1]

Just reg anything you have 100 buyins of. (GO CRAZY ON SUNDAYS AND WIN SOMETHING HUGE). Grind out the smaller buyins as much as u can and play 180s.

And obv drop down if needed.

[joeyrulesall]

Originally Posted by theguru

Ur obv a dolt n prob dont play for a living If you dont understand variance



No

If you're having thousand buyin downswings then clearly you are the dolt sir. Keep donating though we appreciate people like You keeping the poker economy healthy. Lol at you coming in a poker message board calling me a dolt for not needing a thousand buyins to play profitably. So ironic

[joeyrulesall]

Originally Posted by Breanne1

Is this why you so mad?

Ya that made sense. Cool pic bro. Did you just google the word mad and pic a random picture?

[busto23]

Originally Posted by joeyrulesall

Lol at you coming in a poker message board calling me a dolt for not needing a thousand buyins to play profitably. So ironic

Sorry but you are kind of a moron. Why would you need 1000 buyins to play profitably? You think people play unprofitably with 500 buyins?

[p3rc4]

Originally Posted by CCuster_911

Um no.

I men you can modify it, but it stills far from useful if you are making varied bets.

There are models that probably are based slightly off Kelly criteria but look nothing like the simple wiki you linked.

Well, you can make the criterion into a function of average buy in/field size/return on investment/variance and come up with cut off points for moving up and down in abi. The actual criterion is too simple to apply directly to MTTs, but can easily be adjusted to comply with the various factors involved.

Or you can just ball it out and move up and down when you fell you're nearing the danger zone like certain other ballers.

[joeyrulesall]

Originally Posted by busto23

Sorry but you are kind of a moron. Why would you need 1000 buyins to play profitably? You think people play unprofitably with 500 buyins?

Now a guy with the name busto telling me you need 1000 buyins to play. Sorry I'll disregard someone who loses south they have to create the name busto.

[Protential]

Originally Posted by busto23

Sorry but you are kind of a moron. Why would you need 1000 buyins to play profitably? You think people play unprofitably with 500 buyins?

I recently had a 1000 abi downswing, i've had a couple 300-500 abi downswings. Hell, im down 400 abi's over my last 4k games. I only run a 30 abi, i play around 3 109's a day and 3 200's on sundays, the rest of what i play is the best value 10-75$ games on ps (with some party mixed in). The amount of varinace in mtt's has gone up exponentially as people's edges have dropped. When the best regs run only 40-70% roi's, you are going to have some pretty sick swings.

[Rowniwn]

1 wsop ft tho

[JoeDeertay]

Originally Posted by p3rc4

Well, you can make the criterion into a function of average buy in/field size/return on investment/variance and come up with cut off points for moving up and down in abi. The actual criterion is too simple to apply directly to MTTs, but can easily be adjusted to comply with the various factors involved.

Or you can just ball it out and move up and down when you fell you're nearing the danger zone like certain other ballers.

And how exactly do you go about this for all us lazy mathtards?

[masterxcvt]

of course 1000buyins downswing is pretty hard but as you go downer and downer on your swing it will eventually affect your game and put more pressure on you that will make you make mistakes deep in tournaments where it's very important.

also taking sunday shots at all those juicy +EV 5,6 figs won't make it easier do end a downswing.

[busto23]

Originally Posted by joeyrulesall

Now a guy with the name busto telling me you need 1000 buyins to play. Sorry I'll disregard someone who loses south they have to create the name busto.

I'm sorry, we should definitely let someone called Joey Rules All to tell us what to do. Keep grinding your Daily dollar tournaments son.

Originally Posted by Protential

I recently had a 1000 abi downswing, i've had a couple 300-500 abi downswings. Hell, im down 400 abi's over my last 4k games. I only run a 30 abi, i play around 3 109's a day and 3 200's on sundays, the rest of what i play is the best value 10-75$ games on ps (with some party mixed in). The amount of varinace in mtt's has gone up exponentially as people's edges have dropped. When the best regs run only 40-70% roi's, you are going to have some pretty sick swings.

It's not about your downswing. I was questioning Joey's claim about people with 1000 buyins playing profitably, while implying everyone else plays unprofitably. So if you drop under 1000 buyins all of a sudden you forget how to play the game.

[Starcr0ss3d]

1,000 ABI is awfully large.. I'm all for being safe, but..

[bahbahmickey]

If you don't buy-into a tourney with more 2x your avg. buy-in I'd feel comfortable with a 50 BI role. However, if your avg. BI is $22 and you are playing $109 and $200 tourneys you need to rethink this number. Also if you get down to 25BI you need to move down a level or two.

This is coming from a bankroll NIT who has never grown broke.