hey guys i want to give me suggestion about how to organize better my game selection and if its good for me to play the higher games 33$-400 and which of them.i basically care for deepstack/regular speed games and not the hypers/turbos
lifetime graph 0-400$ all games

lifetime mtt graph 0-400 with turbo/hyper :

lifetime mtt graph without turbo/hyper:


here is my results for last 2 years:


2014-2016

0-320 40k games av stakes 25.71$ roi 19.3% profit 214k
0-320 reg speed only 20k games av stakes 30$ roi 30.9% profit 203k

last 1 year (after 1/1/2015)

0-320 21k games av stakes 26.6$ roi 21.9% profit 135k
0-320 reg speed only 11k games av stakes 31.85$ roi 37.6% profit 143k

0-110 avg 21$ roi 15% 47k games 160k profit (2014-2016)

lifetime higher stakes reg speed only :



last 12months higher stakes(33$+)


winrates hem2

9.970 mtts tracked 846k hands 9.67 evbb/100
some other intresting winrates is

2015 winrates :
mtt evbb/100 for 508k hands : 8,31evbb/100
2016 winrates:
mtt evbb/100 for 115k hands: 26.10evbb/100
regular only last 12 months:
mtts evbb/100 for 274k hands:16.45evbb/100
30$ buy in last 2 years
mtts evbb/100 for 127k hands: 11.76evbb/100
30$ + buy in last 12monhts
mtt evbb/100 for 79k hands: 11.01evbb/100
30$ +buy in previous year only regular
mtt evbb/100 for 92k hands:13.46evbb/100
big blind greater than 1kbb(late stages) buy in 50$+ for previous year
mtt evbb/100 for 18k hands:5.31evbb/100
greater than 1kbb buy in 50$ this year
mtt evbb/100 for 21k hands:6.18evbb/100
early stages 0-1k bb all games included for fields 181ppl + i cut sngs/satts/and low fields with lot of regs cause strategy is different at these games early stages
evbb/100 for 312k hands :24.63evbb/100


ft some majors last 2 years like
3rd sunday warm up sunday - 43k
1st 320 sko-31k
6th supernova 1m freeroll-44k
3rd bigger 55 sunday - 35k (deal)
1st big55 weekday-13k
2nd big 109 weekday-12k
6th bigger 162 sunday-11k
1st bigger 33 sunday - 8k
10th sunday million sunday-6.6k
7th 215 supersonic sunday-10.5k
3rd sunday storm-11,5k
1st phase 11 sunday-14k
1st sunday 11r-12k
2nd hotter 82 sunday -15k
1st 50r saturday special 888 -6k
2nd bigger 8.80 sunday-8k
2nd 11r sunday -7k

and did ft the weekdays all the big of ps 8.8,11,22,55,82,109,162 +nightlys and some other weekdays major ships like the early 100r and the late 100r(6max) etc

but last 4 months i am in a huge ds and i am not sure if i have to still play these stakes

thats the graph of me for the last 1 year at 33+


as you can see i am around 18k down to this games last 3 months and if you compare that with my all games graph you ll understand that the reason i suffer from a ds is the ds i suffer to these games



the schedule i care to grind is
0-44$ low fields (not red not blues ) freezout
0-55$ low fields pkos-bountys
0-22 hots
0-11 turbos
0-11 rebuys
0-5 rebuy turbo/hyper
0-82 bigs +109 weekend when fields is bigger with more fishes
0-82 builders +109 weekend when fields is bigger and maybe the 215 builder one(lower variance cause of pko style more fishes and bigger edge same reasons for the 162bb)
all the 0-109$ nl holdem blues(kickoff,starter,minis,late,stacks,eliminator ,marathon)
sunday million 215$
215 battle royale

not really sure for games like the 215 sunday warm up the 320 sko and the 215 saturday schuffle etc

opinions?

2015 winrates :
mtt evbb/100 for 508k hands : 8,31evbb/100 (5800mtt)

2016 winrates:
mtt evbb/100 for 115k hands: 26.10evbb/100 (1400mtts)

regular mtt only last 12 months:
mtts evbb/100 for 274k hands:16.45evbb/100
(3300 games)
all 30$+ for last 2 year (reg+hyper+turbo)
mtts evbb/100 for 127k hands: 11.76evbb/100

all 50$+ 1k+bb for last year
mtt evbb/100 for 18k hands:5.31evbb/100

all 50$+ 1k+bb for this year
mtt evbb/100 for 21k hands:6.18evbb/100

all 50$ for last 2 years no bb filter
mtt evbb/100 for 92k hands:12.83evbb/100

lifetime early stages 0-1kbb
mtt evbb/100 for 511k hands:13.47

lol BBV is the other way

explain it ?

Beats brags variance

I mean, all of this seems super standard, and 18k is just a regular swing nowadays, it's not even close to a huge/sick downswing while your ABI is at 50'ish and 33+ is at 86. That's just like a 250bi swing, which is super super standard in today's games. To me, it seems like you've run very very well in the past (pbb over EV) and now you are experiencing a first 'proper' downswing. Get over it, it happens.

Obviously you could decide to skip a few games in order to regain some confidence, but tbh I don't think you have much right to complain about downswinging given how well you've run lifetime pbb. Just got to grind it out in the end.

oh ok i understand i dont complain about downswing mate i had like this ds another 2-3 familiar i just want to know if i can beat these stakes as i am in a big discussion with my backers nothing more than that.thats not a brag/variance etc thats a clear question.for sure when i am in a ds i have to cut some games like high variance games etc but i care if with the current winrates/results etc i am able to grind 33$+ games like big44-55-82 bb44-55-82 109s blue etc

i dont care for the ds.its a normal ds it happens to all like the upswings i care if i can beat the schedule i posted :

0-44$ low fields (not red not blues ) freezout
0-55$ low fields pkos-bountys
0-22 hots
0-11 turbos
0-11 rebuys
0-5 rebuy turbo/hyper
0-82 bigs +109 weekend when fields is bigger with more fishes
0-82 builders +109 weekend when fields is bigger and maybe the 215 builder one(lower variance cause of pko style more fishes and bigger edge same reasons for the 162bb)
all the 0-109$ nl holdem blues(kickoff,starter,minis,late,stacks,eliminator ,marathon)
sunday million 215$
215 battle royale
33r sunday

not really sure for games like the 215 sunday warm up the 320 sko and the 215 saturday schuffle etc

opinions?

Ok ok. Based on the stats you provided you could, but stats don't tell everything and it is very hard for us to judge without knowing much about your game.

Friendly advice : work on your game, you're making plenty of -ev plays (reshoves, opens, defends etc), balance/stabilize your ranges, remove ego/feelings from your gameplay etc. I think you should look into that and analyze/study stuff before caring about which HS tours to play. I don't mean to come off as a jerk, just my opinion.

yep my game is a high variance games like to play under good dynamics and put aggression.but this period i cutted all the games higher than 33$ all turbos higher than 11 and all hypers higher than 8$ and thats bad for me as with the current ps schedule i cant put volume and grind normal.thats why i have a big discussion about the limits and especially about the 33$+ games

railbird?

just find your ps sn and i really wondering how you know a lot about my game style etc as we never played lot of hands .but it seems like you rail me .aw your point about ego/feelings is correct thats the mental game .about my reshoves,opens,defend all over the world all the regs playing a different game style about ranges so its not normal to say me about -ev plays as my game style maybe its not familiar to you.the only way to understand if that you are doing is corect i think is a big sample of games/hands/results and with this game style i earn money past years and in our days,maybe i have to improve it but for sure its not -ev.
aw when i saw your sn just shocked cause 2-3 guys in the past said me about you ,that you gibe other greek regsthat you dont apreciate their skills and that you kiding their plays/style.i have examples to say you but if you want just pm me .like a sick call of mine friend paris you know who i mean while he played the milly deep and while he did a sick call you just started to post in chat what a random call.

gl in your bussiness and thx for advices

i'll tell you a secret though

results are highly overrated in tournaments bc you never get a big enough sample. well, overrated in terms of absolute skill.

you are right thats why all of my previous years tried to give a bigger volume to my game.i think i have a very big sample 100k games +

but thats not my point

my point is if depend on winrates/results/roi etc is it +ev to grind the 33$+

evbb/100 is even more overrated as:

Styles with larger evbb/100 tend to have worse late finish % stats as you bust out early more often and what you gain in immediate EV, you lose in future game EV. I've seen great players with 3 evbb/100 and 30% ROI longterm in mid-high stakes.

Also if there is even a single Ante Up tournament in this sample, the numbers mean NOTHING.

Can you paste your schedule that you played before and after moving down the stakes ?

When you cut down on higher cost games, you will never be able to beat them. You grind through a downswing with lower abi and when you ready to move up boom same thing.

Play higher abi games and you will be able to beat them as long as you study consistently.

played 2-3 months ago
$55 Regular MTTs and under
$27 Turbo MTTs and under
22 Hyper-Turbo MTTs and under
$11 Regular Rebuys and under
5.50 Turbo Rebuys and under
5.50 2x/3x Turbo Rebuys

Special MTTs
109 Bigs and under Daily
215 Bounty Builders and under Daily
55 Hots and under Daily
$22 Mini Sonic
$22 Double Deuce
$27 Saturday Eliminator
$33 Sunday Rebuy
$44 Sunday Marathon
$55 Sunday Stack
$109 Sunday Kickoff
$109 Sunday Starter
$109 Mini Super Tuesday
$109 Early Battle Royale
$109 Mini Thursday Thrill
$215 sunday million
$215 sunday warm up
$215 battle royale

played previous month :
$33 Regular MTTs and under
$11 Turbo MTTs and under
No Hyper-Turbo MTTs
$11 Regular Rebuys and under
$3.30 Turbo Rebuys and under
$1.10 2x/3x Turbo Rebuys
$4.50 180s and under ($3r 180s not included)
Special MTTs
$55 Bigs and under Daily
$55 Bounty Builders and under Daily
$16.50 Hots and under Daily
$8.88 Saturday Spider
$22 Mini Sonic
$22 Double Deuce
$27 Saturday Eliminator
$33 Sunday Rebuy
$44 Sunday Marathon
$55 Sunday Stack
$109 Sunday Kickoff
$109 Sunday Starter
$109 Mini Super Tuesday
$109 Early Battle Royale
$109 Mini Thursday Thrill


now:
$33 Regular MTTs and under
$11 Turbo MTTs and under
$8.88 Hyper-Turbo MTTs and under
$11 Regular Rebuys and under
$3.30 Turbo Rebuys and under
$1.10 2x/3x/Splash Turbo Rebuys
$4.50 180s and under ($3r 180s not included)
$5 90s and under
Special MTTs
$33 Bigs and under Daily
$33 Bounty Builders and under Daily
$16.50 Hots and under Daily
$27 Saturday Eliminator
$22 Double Deuce


its a big difference to my daily schedule

Hey bro, how many tables you play??? i think you play too much tables and not focusing enough i sugest you to cut the lower ( all 0-11 turbos, hipers, huge feild frezouts) and the higher end of your buyins ( tough 109, 215 turbos, big 215) and play less tables 12- 15 max and you will grind it back

I also have huge dowsing ( mostly from rning bad in higher buy ins, but also playing too many tables and not focusing enough) i cut the numer of tables, game select better and realize that i was playing way too hi variance game, taking a lot of break even close spots with high variance when i can just past those spots and find better spot with more edge and more EV

yup,i am normally play with a max of 15 tables last 12 months but last period after the amaya changes and after the adjust of the limits i am playing like 8 max .i know that i have to do better game selection.that was my point.i don use to play these high variance game you say like the 215 turbo or big215 or low fields 109s.but i care if its +ev the schedule of 33-109 red/blues and the sunday special majors


my point is if i can beat these stakes as i have a disagreement about these stakes and i want to have all these stakes back i mean for reds 33-109 and blues 33-109 and sunday milly-sunday 30r


i care especially for these games

big44-big55-big82-big109
bb44-bb55-bb82-bb109
sunday blues kickoff starter marathon stack ,sunday 30r etc
sunday million 215
weekdays blue minis/late(109s)

all the question is about the above games and if its +ev to grind them

your goal should be to achieve the highest ROI with the least variance.....that means reducing number of tables, cutting out most turbos, game selecting across multiple sites, reducing avg field size,etc.....I also wouldn't mix in big variations in ABI - if your ABI is 109 don't be playing 1ks and 10 dollar tournaments - reduce the variance......the Sunday Million is a prime example of a tournament almost every pro plays but few really should be playing it.....converting EV to $$ through that tournament is extremely tough yet everyone plays it every week because they can't pass that edge up.....imagine there was a 215 on Pokerstars everyday that was a long term 100% ROI tournament but it had 50,000 entrants - 90-95% of pros would be losers in that tournament over the course of a year!

Bottom line is focus on converting EV to cash not just making EV in the safest way possible....your wallet will thank you in the end.

lol the sm is actually the tournament every respectable mtt player should play

I guess you don't really understand the concept of ev & variance then

Buddy idk what and why the guy that stacks you dont want you to play this games, i mean i understand that the biiger fields in this mtts give more variance etc and you have other options on other sites that have weaker and smaller field, but if you are discusing strategy with him ( your relationship is not i give you money tell you what you play and thats it) he should know better what your skills and lvl of play is and if he thinks you are not + ev to play this games hre should coach you or find someone to coach you so u will be + ev and play those games so you can earn more money for you and him
I mean if you dont think you are + ev to play big 44, bb 44 idk why you need stacking you can play lower on your own money
At the end i mean they guy whit who you have stacking agreement has full right to tell you what games he is stacking you for if you dont like it and you are not in make up u can just quit and play on your own,

agree

I don't think you realize how hard it is to convert ev to $ in big field tournaments.....ev doesn't pay the bills buddy

3 reasons about that.1st i showed them a bad hh of me wich it was a spew hh to a guy who coached me.
2nd i am in a ds
3rd never showed the correct evbb/100 i showed em just the total of 2.2m hands with 1.48evbb/100 wich include the stts sngs 45m 90m 180m etc and they said me that its too low wich i have to accept.

i am in a makeup so i cant play at my own and the only way to return back to profits is to be back in a normal volume/grinding .atm i am 4-5 tabling cause of this game selection

Guess this is problem that you need to figure out with your backer and coach, i just want to say onre thing about bb/100 in mtts that i dont think it matters that much the way mtts are this days and are nor real mirror of your skills you can run good early deep and later run bad/ play bad and you will still have big bb/100, so...