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08-30-2012 , 10:56 PM
wow DanteA killin it with the new avatar... ****in gold bro... gold
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08-30-2012 , 11:29 PM
Come to Melbourne? Pretty sure youre german.

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08-30-2012 , 11:36 PM
Oh so I ask you for the photos to show my family and i never see em but you get a chance to troll and bam
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08-30-2012 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
You seem like a cool dude and I like this thread already, but what it's lacking is the actual story. You kinda jumped straight away to where you're at now and gave us footnotes, I for one would be really interested in hearing the story of how everything happened from the moment the thought of staking popped into your head ---> where you are now.

My random question: Biggest wins that horses have scored for you?

Anyway, thanks for doing this and all the best with everything! I'm coming to Melbourne in a few months, I feel like a night out might be in order
+1, i guess i missed the bogan boat too.

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wow DanteA killin it with the new avatar... ****in gold bro... gold
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=427
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08-30-2012 , 11:47 PM
Bogan you should make one of those punching dolls for tilt control and just model it after your own mug, overnight millionaire guaranteed.

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i would probably buy 3 of them
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08-30-2012 , 11:53 PM
Ok here is Part 1 of the mini-stories I did about my life which is called Deaf Girl, Bald Girl Blow Jobs and Sex in rehab - The life of a House Husband.

Ill chuck up the first bit and if you guys want the full story ill post it all otherwise ill ski[ to the chapter called 'Becoming the next Zima'

(keep in mine that I have taking a bit of license with some of the stories but most are factually)
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Part 1 - The deaf girl

Im a fat man, but I was once a very fat man so finding women that would willingly have sex with me wasn't easy. Having made the mistake of making a move on a girl from the forum I owned and having a on again off again relationship with this girl It was time to move on I shut down my website and completely lost contact with all from the forums I was a member of. At the time Id just got into drugs and was winning a lot of money playing poker but losing even more playing blackjack.

I rocked up to a mates about 7 or 8 and yelled to the cabbie go home smell ya later, as was the way of the times everywhere Id go id take dr00gs with me. On this night in question Id decided that a crackpipe and ice would be the best option so I was sneaking off to my best friend of the times bathroom to smoke ice during his engagement party with the problem being that my friend didnt even know how bad my drug habit had become.

As I walk out to a party that I am ment to give a speech out I realize I look like a complete mess so I go inside and notice this attractive little thing. She would have been 5'4 50-55 kg with dark hair BAM just how I like em. So I walk over and introduce myself, hi how are you im Bogan to which I get a reply of "Hi IM mel HOW are YOU" in a sort of sing song hi pitched voice.

That was when I truly checked her out and noticed the hearing aid, **** SHES DEAF!! Well let be honest im a fat guy who was on a stimulant that makes you want to **** anything that moves and my penis is telling me that I must get into to this girl. So im chatting her up and she is keen as mustard so we walk off to the park and she straddles me on the swing and we start getting hot and heavy. In the end I decided that bending her over the park bench was the way to go and by this point she is starting to moan

"ahhg ahhg ahhg"
"ahhg ahhg ahhg"

WTF IS THAT NOISE? I think to myself before remembering that I am having sex with a deaf girl who can't speak properly and that is her version of moaning. As I am calling this girl a filthy little whore and telling her to take my **** like she knows she want to which of course she cant hear I can faintly hear speeches going on. **** Im ment to be his best man in waiting and here I am having sex with a deaf girl in a park across from his house. I try to rush my load but as any of you that have done drugs know its not that easy to do.

I get back inside and my friend ask me where the **** I have been and had I feed drugs to his deaf 18 yr old cousin.... The look on my face most likely gave me away, he looked at me and just said "Boges you didn't just have sex with my deaf cousin did you? You ****ing did how could you do that at my engagement party" and kicked me out of his house. On the Monday I get a phone call saying that I am to take her out to dinner and thats that. So I decide to take her to movies? WTF was the point of taking her to the movies ill never know. As you do when you have paid to take a girl out to the movies I made sure I got my end in again and never returned her calls.

My best friend is constantly calling saying that he keeps getting calls from his cousin wondering if Im ok and why am I not return her calls? Then he calls and wonders whats going on during a day I was waiting for my meth to show up. For those that don't know, when a meth addict has no drugs they get angry very easy and I snap at my friend and explain to him that I only ****ed her cause she was deaf and that id always wanted to hear a deaf girl moan.

A week later Im up and about flying like a mad man and call my best mate for a beer but his busy

The next weekend I call my best mate and wonder if he wanted to watch the Cricket at mine? He couldn't he was working...

Month later I call him to say that im going through a rough patch and I really need his heap and he says he will come see me when work isnt so busy.....

I get a call from another friend asking what I was planning for my mates bucks weekend next month in Cairns to which I explained that I didn't even know his bucks weekend was planned and that I had not received a invite to his wedding.

I've since gone to rehab and got my addictions under control, I recently saw this what I guess is now classed as a former friend and he looks at my 2 year old daughter with shock. How could you not call me and tell me you had a kid on the way? Why didn't you tell me you went to rehab and got clean? I only cut out contact with you because you got so hard into the drugs and that was not what I wanted around me blah blah blah

He can say that he stopped contact with me due to drugs, but I know its because I made his deaf 18 year cousin go

"ahhg ahhg ahhg"
"ahhg ahhg ahhg"
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08-31-2012 , 12:21 AM
whats a dolt buddy
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08-31-2012 , 01:25 AM
Part XXI - Becoming the next Zima

Having got myself into poker thanks to the kind help of a few friends I started doing pretty decent. I was running at $7 a game over my first 2000 3r/180s and Id finished 51st and 21st in back to back Sunday Millions (the first post black friday and the one before it) but mentally I was struggling. Id built a huge stack and had done all I could in that chase for glory and if Id won one of these or even final tabled I might have followed the playing dream and not the staking dream.

Staking had always been something I had a interest in and I wasn't really happy with giving up 50% of my winnings to my then backers in Jackziyang and Spathic, sure they had been great to me but Id not got a single coaching session and I was offered nothing more then a bankroll. I moved over to play with Gavin555 and Chavarov on a deal that was very much in my favor after already sending them a friend in Semesa1. Semesa and I had done a fair bit of work together and I helped him get his first stake.

Having looked through the other horses in the stable I saw 3 or 4 guys Id seen in negative feedback!!!! So I offered to help out where I could and in the end we came to an agreement that Id join them as the Stable Manger even tho we didnt even have a stable! I spent hour upon hour coaching guys including doing nearly 20 hours in 3-4 weeks with m1ghtyducks and 10 or hours with syker12. My own game started to suffer due to coaching my "style" and showing people the 3betting hands I favored etc on mass so it seemed like staking was going to be my future.

I went back through the marketplace and read every thread for the past 2 years on there, I looked through id guess 60% of Zima's total post and I followed his posting to see how he went about. At this stage I was one if not the most well known poster in 4life and spent most of my day trolling 2p2. Id overcome my addiction but I was not yet mentally over all that comes with the love of a pipe.

As the staking moved forward we seemed to be having really good success with Chavarov and I focusing on coaching 3rs and Gavin and Semesa looking after the freezeouts. We had built our roll to around 20k when Semesa left to play for Baza and I was starting to really push the stable in skype chats. If you have been involved in a skype chat with me you will know I set my computer up to message me whenever someboday said Stake, Staker, Dean, Bogan, Bogan4life or busto so that every time someone was wanting to talk about staking or myself I was there.

Id looked into mtt's after Semesa successful start with baza and I needed to find a low risk player that could really help our roll. I took a punt on a little known German guy and gave him a great deal that saw him gain % with the more he made and locked him into a 5 month deal. This deal was probably the key to going from being small fry to becoming one of the biggest stables in the game.

As most of you could guess that player was Rowniwn. He joined the stable with a no frills mindset and was happy to grind out a little lower then he should have. Thank god that he never downswong because in his first 2 months he made more for us then the 20 odd 180s guys we had at the time combined!

I really wanted to move into mtt's big time but we didnt have the roll to do it and Chavarov wasn't really a fan of mtt's at the time so I started talking with my old staker Jackziyang and Spathic with the numbers and the facts on how at that stage after 4 months Id turned a $5000 inital roll into just under $100k and they thought I could grab a few horses and we could go from there.

With in a week id signed 12 horses!! Bare in mind I was a losing mtt player having played under 300 of them in my life but I knew if I followed the process of extreme coaching commitments (having to bring in mtt coach's this time with myself still coaching the 180 guys) and using my unique style to find players and be more like a mate/social worker then a boss it was the stepping stone to the next level of backing.

So hear I was running a stable for Gavin/Chav and for Jack/Spathic so I thought having one big chat where all the guys could work together would be great and this is when #teambogan Online was built.

The # tag was used due to a market research showing that due to the twitter fad it makes a company easier to brand, the Team part was to try to create a loyalty among players with a structure that made them see me the same way you would a Coach or Captain of a sporting team, a person they could turn to when needed with the big bad owners being the bad guys I obv used my name due to my following from my troll days in 4life and the fact I could create a brand around myself and the Online part was due wanting to stand out that I was doing online backing only.

We started posting sweat threads for our guys in mttc with the #teambogan and flooded pg&c with threads from our players along with me telling the same funny story in every single skype group I was in. At one stage I think I was in over 20 group chats where most of the day id promote the group.

#teambogan had only just started to kick off when I had my first manic low from bi polar.... This was to be one the biggest test

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More to come clearly, when I write this part for my book Ill be changing it to not go into so much boring detail
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08-31-2012 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hehateme315
whats a dolt buddy
Think potamito
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08-31-2012 , 02:05 AM
deaf girl story

Last edited by MadDogFerg; 08-31-2012 at 02:05 AM. Reason: you killed my beloved 180s you mother ****er
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08-31-2012 , 02:10 AM
what advice would you give someone who wants to change his life, but can't seem to get started on it for various reasons including laziness, depression, lack of interest in anything besides poker which he can't play in the usa, and plenty of self-wallowing?
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08-31-2012 , 03:47 AM
Hum so after I staked you for a week you started getting staked by chav and then heatered for a year? (damn he was already my rival!)

We kinda talked about this but are you quitting strictly because of time consumption or did your infrastructural fall apart some too? Seems like alot of money to leave on the table when you can just hire someone to do alot of your work. Is your stable still alive with your investors or whatever or is it gone?
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08-31-2012 , 04:11 AM
Did I offend you or something you posted that then kicked me and seemed to block me on skype do you want me to take it down? I think im a bit of a psychopath and dont understand feelings and I think people get mad at me is this one of those times?

edit- Oh funny story it was just dak he changed his name to "retired bagman" I read it as "retired bogan" and thought it you. <3 if I understood feelings that is

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08-31-2012 , 04:19 AM
If it isnt confidential, you say you started as stable manager, so I assume to start you had little equity in terms of % of action/profits and that all the money got reinvested, just wondering how did you get compensated for your work? Did you gradually decide to invest in yourself ?

Solid thread though, only heard about you from Marc/Parker a bit before, nice to hear from a fellow staking slave
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08-31-2012 , 09:47 AM
Love the storyes

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So I decide to take her to movies? WTF was the point of taking her to the movies ill never know.
i loled hard irl
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08-31-2012 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by #TBO
The night with you and LostOstrich was a weird one mainly due to LO's love of sniffing feet
This is misleading. My interest in pretty girls' feet is based almost entirely on offering free foot massages in the hope that they'll reward me with sex. I'm hopeful that one day it'll actually happen! If this thread has taught me nothing else though, I've at least learned that lilfishATL has a similar strategy.

Can't think of any questions right now, though I must say I'm quite jealous to see Chuck Bass wants to meet up with you. Def suggest you do whatever necessary to make that happen.
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08-31-2012 , 05:25 PM
Kev's Mum
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08-31-2012 , 08:49 PM
wtf is this ****.?
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08-31-2012 , 08:56 PM
1. You had such a fast rise in your venture into staking... How much do you attribute to luck? (We know you worked hard etc, but obv luck played some role, give us a %).

Now you're not tied to anything and seen as though this is a "well", I'll give you some **** questions that you couldn't answer if still with a stable.

2. Favourite horse?
3. Most annoying horse?
4. Biggest whiner? (might be same as #3)
5. Least talented, but successful horse?
6. Most talented but underperformed horse?

7. If you could be one of your horses for a day, who would you be? why?
8. If you had to have sexual relations with any of your horses, who? why?

9. How many times were you scammed? For how much?

10. Pics of deaf girl or gtfo u dolt.
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08-31-2012 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
what advice would you give someone who wants to change his life, but can't seem to get started on it for various reasons including laziness, depression, lack of interest in anything besides poker which he can't play in the usa, and plenty of self-wallowing?
The cost of living in Mexico is super low. Save up a few thousand bucks and move there for 3 months. As critical as I've been of your game, I know you could find a backer for low stakes MTTs & 180s in a heartbeat.

Dont worry what friends and family say. If you're that miserable then GO FOR IT -- you have nothing to lose.
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08-31-2012 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_fold
you have nothing to lose.
lol
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08-31-2012 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Saywatagain!
lol
nou
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08-31-2012 , 09:36 PM
lol nice questions mjw, dolting it upppppp (sun)
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08-31-2012 , 10:18 PM
i think i have you on skype but have never talked and didn't realise you did all this staking etc. good thread so far

so the deal you were under was some other guys put up the money and you staked on their behalf and took a cut of the winnings?

how do you keep track of each horses performance? daily balances/logging into accounts? any clever spreadsheets etc?

how did you exercise BRM within the stable?

worst downswing?
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08-31-2012 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
what advice would you givewho wants to change his life, but can't seem to get started on it for various reasons including laziness, depression, lack of interest in anything besides poker which he can't play in the usa, and plenty of self-wallowing?
Remember how lucky you still are and how much worse it be, hell you could be middle aged, divorced because you slept with your wifes sister and working as my assitant! Now that would be a ****ed life!

I have a lot of the same problems bar the can't play part (unless you check my hh then you might say it would be for the best) id look at getting somethhhhhing going for me it was going back to school and studying to be a youth worker followed by donating my time at a youth shelter. If you feel like you have no reason to get up then you won't so having a forced commitment that you will enjoy is a big help
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