Originally Posted by randyd501
Nice post genius....how about he agreed to pay him back 25k and then renegs cause he lost during WSOP and feels he saved Tom $$ so shouldn't have to pay? Thats perfect logic...it seems like standard practice lately
He also was having a grand ole time in Vegas partying his brains out at clubs and Rehab past 3 months while he owed $$$ out.
There were other ways this could have been handled but he chose to out Carter on 2+2 after many attempts and BS responses by Carter to collect...so this is basically a warning by Tom to the forum beware of doing biz with a deadbeat kinda of the same analogy posters have gone to with Chino and others .
Tom handled it like a total gentlemen. Many of us would not be this kind by now.
[ ]Partying in Vegas = 80K
[ ]If you are in make up and broke you should sulk in a cold dark lonely corner
[ ]He has a low variance method of making the owed manies with online MTT's
[x]He should pay the 25K
[x]He has paid 8%
[ ]He has the money to pay
[ ]After BF OP should own all stakee's live action
[x]If he paid 100% after his mini score he would have nothing left
[x]There should have been a contract explicating the staking agreement
[x]Warning people on a public forum is acceptable
[x]Shaming people and talking about their "fragile emotional state" is a pretty pathetic needle
[ ]The following is a good business practice: "We never had a set deal or guarantee for either are playing at the current time."
[ ]OP's side and interpretation of events is 100% accurate
[ ]Stakee's side and interpretation of events is 100% accurate
[ ]The following is a good business practice: "While at the time I was against this decision I still bought him into EPT San Remo, EPT Madrid and a handful of side events between the two stops."
[x]The line of friendship and business relationship was blurred as it is in most online staking arrangements with friends.
[x]Staking arangements without written terms and conditions is the actual definition of insanity.
[ ]Two plus two can make him pay
[x]This thread puts egg on both your faces
[ ]There are hundreds of these situations post BF and each should have their own thread
[x]OP and Stakee should figure this zhit out on their own since they were the only ones in the situation and therefore know all the intricacies of the arrangement etc. and if they can't figure it out and/or stakee can't pay then OP should sue in civil court or if stakee feels wrong he should sue OP for defamation of character and then both can cross each other off their respective Christmas lists.