BR nit??

[doublesu1ted]

$22 big antes has about 160 people in it usually and first cashes for $800.. not that tough of a field either.

[doublesu1ted]

Originally Posted by burloquexiv

Is sunday million really that easy so ull cash everytime? I doubt this. explain more

Sunday million/ Sunday storm are about = in how bad the feild is, but less players in the million so not as many idiots willing to get it in with a gut shot. but cashing every time is pretty unrealistic. if you can't afford a $200 loss to your bankroll don't play it and just play the storm.

[ACgaming]

To be real you need like 20-30k to buyin straight up to the sunday million. If you have a decent bankroll you can easily satellite in (5kish). Who cares if it's easy to cash you aren't going to play good enough if you get deep to have any legitimate chance of winning.

Play everything up to 11$ including the bigs and hots and mtt sngs. It will be easy enough to move up if you don't go crazy and take tons of shots.

[LeProtagonist]

Originally Posted by doublesu1ted

$22 big antes has about 160 people in it usually and first cashes for $800.. not that tough of a field either.

Nah don't play these unless you are somewhat competent. Structure is different and needs adjusting to. Also full of "regs" i had 40/171 tagged in todays 22 big antes. Worth playing but defo better options out there.

[ProdigyXII]

every time someone calls AA<JJ or whatever a 'coinflip' I get the exact same feeling as when someone describes a tournament prize pool 'the pot'.

[burloquexiv]

U dont need 20-30k to play a 250 dollar tourney.
most people playing sunday mil dont have a 30k roll or more.
5 k is fine to play sunday mil, if u know u can win back the 200 dollars

[.Dinger]

why not just "win back" lots and lots of 200$'s, cant be that hard.... do it 1000times and u dont need to win the million anyway

[Potamito]

If u want to play on higher buy ins without hurting/forcing/risking a big chunk of your bankroll saty into them, play satys within your ABI to $20/$100 MTTs.
Dont take satys winnings as part of you bankroll, just use them to take cheap shots at higher buy ins without risking a big part of your bankroll.

[sufur]

Originally Posted by Potamito

If u want to play on higher buy ins without hurting/forcing/risking a big chunk of your bankroll saty into them, play satys within your ABI to $20/$100 MTTs.
Dont take satys winnings as part of you bankroll, just use them to take cheap shots at higher buy ins without risking a big part of your bankroll.

i completely disagree with this type of satty logic. the only reason to play sattys is if you're good at them and it's a good addition to your schedule.

ex. you play 10 $10 tournaments a day and you can't handle any more then that. you have a 20% roi in these tournaments. your expectation is $20 profit/day.

instead you play your 9 tournaments and switch out 1 for a $10 satty. all good with brm and you have the same expectation in the $10 satty. so your daily expectation is the same $20 profit but now 1/10th of it comes in the form of tournament ticket.

you're not really getting around good brm. it's no different to play the satty and use the tournament ticket then it is to play a reg tournament and just use the winnings to buy into a higher buyin tourny.

some people are adding in sattys where they have an expectation lower then their regular games and it's just stupid, imo.

I wish i could explain this more clearly but I think my point comes through enough to hit submit. :P

[Potamito]

Originally Posted by sufur

ex. you play 10 $10 tournaments a day and you can't handle any more then that. you have a 20% roi in these tournaments. your expectation is $20 profit/day.

instead you play your 9 tournaments and switch out 1 for a $10 satty. all good with brm and you have the same expectation in the $10 satty. so your daily expectation is the same $20 profit but now 1/10th of it comes in the form of tournament ticket.

Taking your example, the player above its sacrifying $2 of his daily average profit to take a shot at a $100/$200 tournament without risking a proportional part of his roll he just risked wthin his ABI to play the saty...right?
I understand your point i just disagree with it cuz basically you´re saying satys are just another form of tournament poker to profit from not to qualify for a higher buy in tournament cheaply,in other words, player should only play higher buy ins tournament just when he has the bankroll to direct buy in into it? Cheers

[sufur]

no, i'm saying take shots based on some rubric to take shots. don't play sattys and think it isn't shot taking. if you're going to do it, do it. if sattys is the most +ev way to do it, then give'r. it's questionable whether I'm explaining myself well but I don't think it's debatable whether I'm right.

[Potamito]

Originally Posted by sufur

don't play sattys and think it isn't shot taking.

Have never say this, i have stated that satys ARE for shot taking without hurting/risking/investing too much of your bankroll

l but I don't think it's debatable whether I'm right.

Ok, got cha, cant continue debating with someone who thinks owns the truth, i just post here my 2 cents on the matter

[sufur]

ha, thought the smiley denoted I wasn't being serious.

I'm just saying it's no different then a regular shot take. what does it matter if you win a ticket in a satty or win the equivalent amount for the ticket in a regular mtt? or cash game for that matter? there's no difference, imo.

just play your best games which is some balance of brm, enjoyment and edge. sattys can be part of an optimal schedule but they aren't some special beast that doesn't risk any of your roll.

[Potamito]

Originally Posted by sufur

ha, thought the smiley denoted I wasn't being serious.

BUSTED¡!¡!¡ hahahahaha, needed it something to have you without been obvious

[LaplaceTransform]

Originally Posted by sufur

ha, thought the smiley denoted I wasn't being serious.

I'm just saying it's no different then a regular shot take. what does it matter if you win a ticket in a satty or win the equivalent amount for the ticket in a regular mtt? or cash game for that matter? there's no difference, imo.

just play your best games which is some balance of brm, enjoyment and edge. sattys can be part of an optimal schedule but they aren't some special beast that doesn't risk any of your roll.

Yeah I agree, if you want to satellite to the sunday millions you can just play the 1.65r satellites. There are a lot of fish there and many regulars play them because it's easy money. I will stick to the 2.50 sngos and 25 NL though they are so soft and I already made like 200 $ over 2 days I played them