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01-17-2010, 12:54 AM
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#151
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 637
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
this is what i ****ing hate about people like u/DN etc who bitch and moan about structures. if u dont like them, dont play them
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01-17-2010, 01:03 AM
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#152
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Had dem pocket 77s
Posts: 1,514
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
They skip 90 mins each of 500 1000, 1200 2400, 2500 5000 and 5000 10000. Also lol at 50k 100k skip....
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I don't really understand all of the complaining about structures. If you don't like the structure just don't play the tournament. I certainly enjoy playing long deepstacked events, but I don't really see the reason to complain so much. Not every event needs to have 30000bbs.
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01-17-2010, 01:03 AM
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#153
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,284
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
If no one complained nothing would ever improve
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01-17-2010, 01:17 AM
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#154
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 2,062
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
While I do agree that The Chainsaw does an inordinate amount of complaining, I do think that high profile 10k MTTs should have these levels.
There is a fine line between being a whiny little bi*ch and making constructive critical arguments to "make the game better" for everyone. AK needs to learn how to walk this line.
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01-17-2010, 01:18 AM
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#155
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 176
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
Maybe if you stopped complaining, YOU would improve.
Whens the last time you studied your game, or tried to take in new strategies/adjust to the way the games being played? You keep complaining about structures because you dont know how to adjust to them. No one else ever has a problem anywhere close to what you do with structures because we know how to play optimally in those situations.
Faster structures dont mean that you dont have an edge anymore. It might be smaller, depending on how well your table push/folds or rejams, or it might be close to the same in these smaller buyins where people dont really know how to do these things optimally.
TEACH YOURSELF. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ITS YOUR JOB.
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01-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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#156
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Que?
Posts: 21,833
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
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Originally Posted by looshle
How about you just teach yourself how to push/fold unexploitably and then it wont matter?
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Not true
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Originally Posted by au_maverick
this is what i ****ing hate about people like u/DN etc who bitch and moan about structures. if u dont like them, dont play them
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Dumb
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01-17-2010, 01:42 AM
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#157
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 2,062
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
^^
AGREED!
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01-17-2010, 01:57 AM
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#158
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: athens, ga
Posts: 3,168
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
don't stop, make it pop, dj blow my speakers up, to-night, i'ma fight til we see the sunlight
tik tok, on the clock, but the party don't stop - no!
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Originally Posted by threatnasty
rly?? i've heard howard stern..not steve beglieter..
then chainsaw showed up - he was complaining about the structure of the alpha chi omega charity event
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01-17-2010, 04:00 AM
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#159
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 11,196
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
I agree with the Chainsaw. I do think the 90 minute levels will keep the average stack high enough, but I would rather have slightly shorter levels and smoother jumps if it has to be only 4 days. To the vast majority of the players 10k is significant money and the win would be lifechanging so I doubt there would be too many complaints if they threw in the missing levels, not to mention some extra ones that could be in there
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01-17-2010, 04:06 AM
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#160
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: TriBeca, NYC
Posts: 5,050
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
I think I finally understand all the Chainsaw complaints/threads/posts... he is a mediocre player at best, lost in the sea of tournaments grinders. He has decided to 'make a name for himself' and become 'famous' and more 'recognizable'... by constantly creating these threads and continuous complaining about tournament structures, people will inevitably and unfortunately pay attention to him. After all, why should he change and improve his game, while he can always blame it on the structure? Good job Allen.
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01-17-2010, 09:03 AM
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#161
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,990
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
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Originally Posted by au_maverick
this is what i ****ing hate about people like u/DN etc who bitch and moan about structures. if u dont like them, dont play them
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigmarq
I don't really understand all of the complaining about structures. If you don't like the structure just don't play the tournament. I certainly enjoy playing long deepstacked events, but I don't really see the reason to complain so much. Not every event needs to have 30000bbs.
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These posts are really dumb. There aren't many $10K events per year in the US. Good players are significantly +EV in even the worst structured $10K, so it doesn't make sense not to play in it. By skipping one you're costing yourself money. At the same time, because there are so few events of this magnitude each year, it makes sense for those who play in them to want them to have great structures. And as Allen said the only way to improve things is to let your complaints be heard.
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01-17-2010, 09:06 AM
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#162
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: I call mods for inappropriate chat
Posts: 2,427
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
absurd
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01-17-2010, 10:34 AM
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#163
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 708
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
Do NOt let these people taunts and suggestions of ILL WILL halt you.
I had to LOOK UP DOUBLEJOKER but I know who you are. I had probably played with you.
People are cruel and vicious and its because they are hungry and scared.
Everyone is though.
Also I dont trust slot machines. Simply because of my experience with them.
THANK YOU
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01-17-2010, 01:36 PM
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#164
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,284
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
Slot machines will take your money
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01-17-2010, 02:04 PM
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#165
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Is Right
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 18,272
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Re: Daniel Negreanu was Right; WPT 10K in Biloxi has bad structure
You guys.. if you insult chainsaw in the wrong way, he'll think that we actually don't have legitimate reasons to hate him.
Chainsaw, nobody wants to hear you whine about bad structures. First of all, you're wrong really often. Second of all, when a structure actually is bad, people are really unlikely to take you seriously because you cry wolf about every tournament. Third of all, you've become such a joke that even if someone wanted to take you seriously on 2p2, they'd just get drowned out in a thread full of people insulting you.
The fact that this gets pointed out to you every time you make one of these threads and you still make a thread like this once a week or something is just insane. The mods even made a thread to contain all your stupid threads, and you still keep posting new ones oblivious to the fact that nobody wants them.
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