Alleged chatlog between Sorel and thorladen

[Aguskb]

Originally Posted by THEOSU

Sorel,

the reason that we keep posts and threads like these up is that if we didn't, Scott Tom and Russ Hamilton would still be fleecing people out of millions.

yea exactly...if there's nothing to hide and you don't think you did anything shady, just cooperate and show us why we're wrong

i understand you dont feel part of the 2p2 community but you are still a big part of the poker community and you should just respect everyone for wanting to keep it as legit as possible... so using this "i dont care what you think" type of attitude is just going to make everyone assume youre guilty, and if you still dont care about being assumed guilty bc in youre head "youre innocent and we're attacking you" then whatever i guess youll just always be considered a cheat to the world and innocent to yourself

[threatnasty]

oh and a note to Sorel:

nobody is jealous of your success (well people might be, but this is not why the reputable members of the community are concerned about your MAing exploits). the general consensus is that you are good at poker (nobody disputes that). the fact that you have to justify this point to yourself in a thread to people whose opinions you claim you don't care about is mildly humorous to me.

threads like this and replies like yours make me feel like I am way too smart to be playing poker professionally. i'm simply not capable of dumbing myself down to your level. Like, lol. You just don't get it. Your reply is embarrassing.

congratulations on your success, and good luck in the future.

-brett

p.s. it was decent of you to clear the names of a few of those implicated who had no involvement in the matter. props

[rS.X]

Just wanted to get in right after Sorel's post. Wow holy ambiguity batman! Seriously... be more vague dude. For starters, you definitely need to define what parts of the aim conversation were 'fabricated' and which are legit. Your response doesn't make any sense really and you just did a poor job of addressing the arguments itt.

[RandomGuy2]

Thor's post strongly implies that the conversation was legit, while Sorel is basically saying it is fabricated (but fabricated out of legit conversations?).

So to me, these 2 posts are clearly at odds with one another, and since I doubt Thor has a reason to implicitly endorse the authenticity of this chat (it doesn't exactly flatter him either), it seems to me that Sorel's post is BS....

[lilOUmikey]

Originally Posted by Aguskb

yea exactly...if there's nothing to hide and you don't think you did anything shady, just cooperate and show us why we're wrong

i understand you dont feel part of the 2p2 community but you are still a big part of the poker community and you should just respect everyone for wanting to keep it as legit as possible... so using this "i dont care what you think" type of attitude is just going to make everyone assume youre guilty, and if you still dont care about being assumed guilty bc in youre head "youre innocent and we're attacking you" then whatever i guess youll just always be considered a cheat to the world and innocent to yourself

close to 5 or 6 times bigger part of the community then the average player

[RandomGuy2]

Originally Posted by lilOUmikey

close to 5 or 6 times bigger part of the community then the average player

zING!!!!!

[hoodini10]

Originally Posted by BKiCe

based on how serious you made it sound in your original post on the subject, don't you think it's pretty irresponsible to not be releasing whatever info you have as soon as possible? i can't think of a single reason you would wait this long, or decide to go on the podcast to disclose whatever is going on, rather than alerting the community as soon as possible.

At the very least you should put a summary of details up about whatever it is you're talking about asap, deeb. Agree 110% with BKiCe

[THAY3R]

Shaun "Hollywood" Deeb

[TurnUpTheSun]

that was more of a rant getting two years of anger of your chest.
now answer the questions about ma'ing. good job not denying it.

in before shaun makes it all about himself.

[Bikini Wax]

you guys sure do love jumping on the I hate multiaccounting band waggon at any mention of Sorel/ZJ/JJP it's pretty sad

don't you guys get tired to rehashing the same pointless ghosting debate every other week? it's a reality just ****ing live with it

[The Brickie]

Originally Posted by Bikini Wax

it's a reality just ****ing live with it

Are we still allowed to feel it's scummy? And that those who do it are scum?

[mullen]

Originally Posted by Imper1um

In your elaborate fantasies you want to believe that I'm traveling the world playing 10k+ buyin's and during my off-time I'm putting 6 accounts in $200 online tournaments. Get real!* I probably play online tournaments on average once every 2-3 weeks. The main reason I've almost completely stopped playing online was to get away from the exact bull**** I'm dealing with right now.

According to you at least part of these conversations took place right after you got swindled out of a lot of $$ and were short on money. Just because you're not doing it now (MA'ing/ghosting etc) doesn't mean you never did it. Your explanation is also a bit confusing -- the way you're saying it is that someone took a bunch of snippets of MSN conversations, added some fabricated things and pasted them all together to incriminate you. Given the nature of the conversation even if 10% of it is undoctored you have some explaining to do. I'm assuming you took some time to come up with a response so it's pretty weird that you explained how the conversation was fabricated so terribly.

Also, everyone here is aware that you are better at poker then pretty much everyone in this thread. Most people aren't jealous but rather they feel like you owe an explanation because you are a huge name in the poker community, and you've yet to give a reasonable one.

[Bikini Wax]

Originally Posted by The Brickie

Are we still allowed to feel it's scummy? And that those who do it are scum?

I mean I'm in no spot to tell you what your allowed or not allowed to do, but yeah I mean use your own judgement

[ArcadianSky]

Originally Posted by HopelessHousewife

hey, people stop hating on imper1um because he has won more money in poker than u, ok?

imper1um, any tips how to get better (read: how to properly multiaccount) at MTT's?

are you serious or what?
you can't be...

[Shan]

lol, is your response serious? it cant be..