Please tell me if this is a good amount to raise preflop - Its a friends hand and we were discussing it. I'm of the opinion that they should be raised more than just 2x.. but maybe im wrong?

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wait for a better spot

Id make it about 3.5 personally

Wait for a better spot meaning just fold the aces? If we raise to 3.5 aren't we letting in small suited connectors and gappers at this point with such a small raise?

Just kinda seems like a leaky play to me..

ROL to 4000, now don't fold

I recommend limping behind in these spots. You want to liur in the rest of the table so you get a chance to stack them all in one pot!

no set no bet

thanks guys. I think the limp / shove is probably the best option in this position tbh; however it can be a bit problematic if youre deep stacked with only two tables full of regs left as they will more than likely see the limp as trappy. I suppose next time I'll just have to work on my limp metaimage early on

Thought it was your friends hand?

It is, speaking vicariously I suppose.. as I've been in this situation plenty / was in it yesterday final table with queens actually.

Imo it was played bad by both side... While hero had nut flush draw, someone could have already made their hand, even SF. Yes, those small SC might not fold 2k bet after 7k or 9k already in the pot and needing only 2k to call.

It seems it was late in the tournament and risking everything on a draw it's bad. I would have checked and reevaluate the turn and river. Maybe im too passive but straights and flushes beat pairs and sets all day. It was a set he was against, but the all diamond flop was the obvious excuse to slow down.

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True ^ I agree that the flop was overplayed by a long shot.. I'm more curious about the preflop sizing though. I think that aces should be played a lot more aggressively preflop; but my friend says that 2xing all of the time no matter what is optimal play because it gives balance. He says that fish vary their bet sizes.. I disagree wholeheartedly tbh.. maybe I'm the fish? All I know is that My aces won't get cracked 2x the amount of times his will playing like that.

Thing is you want action with AA, if you raise bigger, they might go away. Now they were 2 limpers, and he 3x which is ok IMO, 4x is too much unless he knows they are calling. 3.5x would be the max I'd go with AA and KK. If i had QQ or less then i might make it 4x or maybe pot size.

Aces get cracked all the time, when they do it shouldn't change the way you play them next time. Theu are mostly winners, but if you play them too aggressive PF you might just pick up dead money instead.

GL.

true; i suppose id just rather have my aces cracked in a big way than in a small way ^

You can't let anyone crack your aces like that. I think it's just a shove preflop. Everytime i raise small with AA, someone flops a set. Just shove it in and he would fold 44 and you win the pot.

Pretty clear unreg pre spot

My head hurts reading this

I agree SSSM; I'd rather raise big or jam and have someone race with me than raise small and have a multi-way pot with low suited and even unsuited connectors, gappers, deuces, threes, fours, etc come in and hit jin on the flop / turn. That said, the argument before was that there might not be anyone calling you if you play it that way in EP - well wouldn't we rather not be called than be multi-way which will obviously hack our equity to shreds? At the end of the day I believe that this way will be more +EV longterm than raising 3-4x (and praying to get reraised).

@d_jsr - you're just that much of a wizard huh?

Couple of things ,

On that flop with the 3 diamonds and holding the Ad - my line would be to check - call - any reasonable bet size that Villain will bet - and fold to any bet that will commit you to the pot,

If hero does decide to go on and cbet - I would fold to a reraise Since in most cases aces are not good on that flop when facing aggression, yes sometime you would be folding the best hand there - and yes you are drawing to the nut flush , but tournament poker is all about survival and this is a very marginal spot to put your tourney life on the line.

Aces are the best hand preflop but if it doesn't improve on the flop it's only one pair and can easily cracked.

Which is why I would opt to raise heavier pre

wonder what posts are trolls and what posts are attempted good advice.

anyway

OP, Hero played that hand fine. You need to make chips when you have such good holdings if you want a chance at doing well in the tournament. It was unlucky to lose. Time to move on to the next one.

Some decent levelling itt.
wug hero? troll/fish?

limp pre,pop'em on the river.

Im sure you're crushing with that strategy biglick ^