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Old 04-16-2017, 09:24 PM   #1
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Struggling with C Betting when Flop is missed (advice)

I am a long time limit player who has started taking on NL seriously (recreation) in 2016. The problem I am having is c betting when I miss the flop. When I raise pre-flop or 3 bet pre-flop with hands such as AQ+ and am called in 1 or more spots, I can't find a 3 bet when I miss. This turns my hand face up as I check fold even with dry boards.

An advice on how to get over this other than firing a c bet or is it just mental?

If in position and fire a c bet, ok to check the turn in position for showdown value on the river?

I struggle as I play tight and always fold when bet into as it's dead money when I don't hit. Just looking for some advise or drills to get over this major leak.

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Old 04-24-2017, 11:50 PM   #2
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Re: Struggling with C Betting when Flop is missed (advice)

Always observe your opponents when the flop is spread, and notice how they re-act, and if you feel they miss, bet.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:10 PM   #3
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Re: Struggling with C Betting when Flop is missed (advice)

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Always observe your opponents when the flop is spread, and notice how they re-act, and if you feel they miss, bet.
Mike Caro ITT.
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Mike Caro ITT.


Mike Caro had a way of making it simple for amateurs to beat poker with basic strategy advice and tells. I've been playing some low limit spread live, and this is absolutely good advice against the weak sauce. Mike Caro won't make you a world champion, because not everyone is going to give you info about what their hand is so easily, but definitely like his advice on just about anything at the lower limits. The higher up you go, the less tells there are but, there's always tells. And, I think Mike Caro's psychology deserves a shout-out too rather than Mason Malmuth's "mathematical model of tilt".

Also, wear a hat. Sunglasses are kind'a unfriendly, but a hat is super standard and you can hide your eyes adequately against the weak sauce.

And Zachary Elwood's book is also super strong in the tells category.
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Re: Struggling with C Betting when Flop is missed (advice)

Just want to point out that the suggested strategy backfires horribly vs opponents that check raise at a decent frequency.

I prefer to read the board and the situation.
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Re: Struggling with C Betting when Flop is missed (advice)

Yeah, op should know that AQ plays much worse in NL. You're never going to feel great about second best kicker, at least great enough to stack someone. And you do not want to 100% cbet. In NL it is somewhat more important to play the players to maximize EV. K hi flops are probably my fav to cbet as a bluff w AQ.
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