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03-25-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Yes, I was. Making you post in a certain way is not equivalent to silencing you or capping the maximum number of posts per day you can make, which is another mechanic I hate.
stll spr tltng thgh, ws drvng m md t tk t ll th vwls frm my psts, prtclrly gvn my phn's tcrrct wntd t pt thm bck
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03-25-2017 , 06:01 PM
I hope you're not going to hate me for saying this, but I had a lot of fun reading your vowelless posts in which you were raging against your restriction.

I have to say that Ace of Spaids' despair when he asked for a role with his own post restriction during the mod wars game and got the vowel restriction instead was even funnier

Edit: I got the idea from a really old VoraciousReader game. So half of your rage should be directed at her, IMO.
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03-25-2017 , 06:05 PM
ah no, I enjoyed the game a lot

but if it happens to me ever again I'm probably just sitting out that day for my own sanity
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03-25-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FrogSC2
You think a stump cares about status?

Nah Brah.

The life of a stump is like, "Status, Schmatus".

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As a mod of a mafia platform game, there was a power to 'Stump' problematic players during a game, and even set problematic accounts to rand 'Stump' permanently. This muted said players, took away their votes or being counted as part of majority, night actions - it was essentially an in-game ban reserved for trolls.

I recently saw MU talking about adding Stump - just assuming it's similar.
That is not what the stump on that role list is, no.

The role tree stump basically becomes treated as "dead" after activating - no vote or parity impact - but while still able to post.


Silencing roles are indeed terrible.


Re: putting someone on ignore in a game - as long as it's not a very small game like a 9er or something I think it is fine as long as you take them off in critical gamestate such as f3, which I generally assume people will do. Not sure why there is an issue with it either - most people don't make a read on everyone in early game anyway, not everyone reads every post anyway especially the bigger the game is, and there are lots of others reading the ignored person's posts that can quote or otherwise relay anything critically important.

Honestly if I had anyone on ignore long term I would probably just... not bring it up in the signup thread.
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03-25-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
ah no, I enjoyed the game a lot

but if it happens to me ever again I'm probably just sitting out that day for my own sanity
This is how it all began, almost 10 years ago. Except VR and GetThere1Time were extra mean and put the entire thread under the restriction, which was absolutely hilarious.

This reminds me that I've been meaning to run a CYOA werewolf game for some time, and if someone has good ideas, they should hit me up.
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03-25-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
That is not what the stump on that role list is, no.

The role tree stump basically becomes treated as "dead" after activating - no vote or parity impact - but while still able to post.


Silencing roles are indeed terrible.


Re: putting someone on ignore in a game - as long as it's not a very small game like a 9er or something I think it is fine as long as you take them off in critical gamestate such as f3, which I generally assume people will do. Not sure why there is an issue with it either - most people don't make a read on everyone in early game anyway, not everyone reads every post anyway especially the bigger the game is, and there are lots of others reading the ignored person's posts that can quote or otherwise relay anything critically important.

Honestly if I had anyone on ignore long term I would probably just... not bring it up in the signup thread.
One thing that bothered me a bit about my own version of the stump role: suppose the stumped player is a powerrole, and the kind of person who is very careful and deliberate when choosing their target.

So if they get stumped, they will spend a lot of time on their target, and it will be all for nothing. On the other hand, telling them "you have been permaRB'd" if they are Power Roles just entices the thread to correctly clear them.

So if I had to do that again, I'd remove the "permaRB" ability from the tree stumper. This will admittedly make the tree stumper a much weaker role, but that could be compensated elsewhere.
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03-25-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite

I have to say that Ace of Spaids' despair when he asked for a role with his own post restriction during the mod wars game and got the vowel restriction instead was even funnier
you monster

IIRC I lasted but a few hours before being modkilled LOLme
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03-26-2017 , 05:23 AM
on ontorostong voroont woold bo to onlo ollow tho oso of ono vowol
O thonk thot mokos tho posts o bot moro roodoblo

Aaa can asa daffarant vawals far daffarant plaaars
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03-26-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Rowling
on ontorostong voroont woold bo to onlo ollow tho oso of ono vowol
O thonk thot mokos tho posts o bot moro roodoblo

Aaa can asa daffarant vawals far daffarant plaaars
That was...

surprisingly a lot easier to read than I thought it would be.


**** U MUUN thut wus surprusunglu u lut uusuur tu ruud thun u thuught ut wuuld bu.
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03-26-2017 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JK Rowling
on ontorostong voroont woold bo to onlo ollow tho oso of ono vowol
O thonk thot mokos tho posts o bot moro roodoblo

Aaa can asa daffarant vawals far daffarant plaaars
dumn uuu ull

(it certainly makes swearing interesting. also, counting y as a vowel?)
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03-26-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by inDheart
dumn uuu ull

(it certainly makes swearing interesting. also, counting y as a vowel?)
Nope.
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03-26-2017 , 12:20 PM
Y is a bit dual right
A vowel in WHY but not in YES
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03-26-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Nope.
i just said that because gabe seemed to replace "You" with "Aaa" above

clearly we should write posts in IPA or some phonetic standard to disambiguate this very important issue, heh
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03-27-2017 , 01:54 AM
The letter Y can be regarded as both a vowel and a consonant. In terms of sound, a vowel is 'a speech sound which is produced by comparatively open configuration of the vocal tract, with vibration of the vocal cords but without audible friction...', while a consonant is 'a basic speech sound in which the breath is at least partly obstructed'.

The letter Y can be used to represent different sounds in different words, and can therefore fit either definition. In myth or hymn it's clearly a vowel, and also in words such as my, where it stands for a diphthong (a combination of two vowel sounds). On the other hand, in a word like beyond there is an obstacle to the breath which can be heard between two vowels, and the same sound begins words like young and yes. (This consonant sound, like that of the letter W, is sometimes called a 'semivowel' because it is made in a similar way to a vowel, but functions in contrast to vowels when used in words.) Whether the letter Y is a vowel or a consonant is therefore rather an arbitrary decision. The letter is probably more often used as a vowel, but in this role it's often interchangeable with the letter I. However, the consonant sound is not consistently represented in English spelling by any other letter, and perhaps for this reason Y tends traditionally to be counted among the consonants.
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03-27-2017 , 09:10 AM
The notion that UD should somehow be asking Crossnerd's permission before he blacklists posters he doesn't want in his game is too delicious. Almost as delicious as a poster who I'm fairly sure has never run a game of any sort suggesting he should have a say in how UD runs his games too.

100% support Kruze obviously and afaic it's going to remain a rule in this forum that game mods can exclude players from games they are running, regardless which games they are. Yeah, it sucks to be excluded, but mods don't exclude people just because they don't like them, but because they're earned it. The simple answer is, don't earn it.
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03-27-2017 , 09:24 AM
the rule of Y is inviting too much arbitrariness, angleshooting, and possibly even trolling
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03-27-2017 , 09:27 AM
people using their post restrictions to avoid playing the game

are people who don't want to play the game


I think it's really role-neutral
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03-27-2017 , 09:28 AM
The Y thing is simple: since people disagree on the issue, the mod who decides to run that restriction just picks a side and stays with it. It helps if the side in which the mods are on is stated, but frankly, when I ran Baldur's Gate, I remember being convinced that Y was just a consonant.
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03-27-2017 , 09:39 AM
on this topic

recently I was playing a trivia game in which we were asked how many states did not have a vowel in their 2 letter postal abbreviation. I counted them up in my head, including Y, feeling pretty confident in my answer.

turns out we were off 2. according to their "answer", KY and WY have Y as a vowel but NY does not because it starts a word. wtf!
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03-27-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
The notion that UD should somehow be asking Crossnerd's permission before he blacklists posters he doesn't want in his game is too delicious.
Nobody said this. Quit reigniting drama.
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03-29-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
The notion that UD should somehow be asking Crossnerd's permission before he blacklists posters he doesn't want in his game is too delicious. Almost as delicious as a poster who I'm fairly sure has never run a game of any sort suggesting he should have a say in how UD runs his games too.

100% support Kruze obviously and afaic it's going to remain a rule in this forum that game mods can exclude players from games they are running, regardless which games they are. Yeah, it sucks to be excluded, but mods don't exclude people just because they don't like them, but because they're earned it. The simple answer is, don't earn it.
Cliffs:
You looked at the past 150 posts and said TLDR.

Good fantasy fiction though.

Next time make it erotic.
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03-29-2017 , 01:48 AM
All I know is that I would be surprised if benji isn't third party.
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03-29-2017 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FrogSC2
Cliffs:
You looked at the past 150 posts and said TLDR.

Good fantasy fiction though.

Next time make it erotic.
It was a postcard not a novel, bro.
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03-29-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
It was a postcard not a novel, bro.
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03-29-2017 , 11:09 AM
I'm late to the party, but I think blacklisting BenAO from anniversary is absolutely right and I will also say that Gabe definitely does NOT have it out for him.

When gabe sent me a pm to alert me to the Harry Potter Once Upon a Time game that just ended I was interested, but looked at the player list and was concerned. I actually sent him the following PM:

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definitely interested, but have guys like BenAO and lilrascal actually been good participants as of late? I remember having issues with their effort and maturity levels in past games.
He actually reassured me and spoke positively about them so I signed up.

Then what did his faith in the exact 2 players I was concerned about net him? Lilrascal subbed out on n0 and benAO posted once and subbed out as the seer on d1.

It is clear that BenAO is immensely immature and selfish. These two traits are very bad in werewolf. Players like that can be toxic and adversely affect both signups and in game play in some games.
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