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07-24-2011 , 07:04 PM
I had a neat Black Friday themed backstory and stuff but my computer decided to implode yesterday night. So, I'm blaming it on the wolves. Go get them

15 players
11 generic villagers
3 wolves
1 seer with no n0 peek

Game will probably start tomorrow late US Central time.

IT IS NIGHT STFU

HERE is a link to the rules and some basic strategies of Werewolf.

Good luck!
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07-25-2011 , 11:31 PM
IT IS NOW DAY

Night 1 will be 5 PM on Wednesday, because there's quite a few non-North American players and I want to accommodate everyone's time schedule.

Player list is:

Polycarpus
Aksdal
dhcg86
YertleTurtle
raised by jews
LXThrottle
Maruchan
crazyk951
PrimordialAA
Firegoat777
berksonz
jackoneill
G3NGAR
chugenemes
IHeardJoeBlows

gogogogogo glglgl
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07-26-2011 , 12:22 AM
Greetings,

Good luck everyone with the game. Having a few problems with my Internet so won't be able to post again today. Vote-Polycarpus
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07-26-2011 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Firegoat777
Greetings,

Good luck everyone with the game. Having a few problems with my Internet so won't be able to post again today. Vote-Polycarpus
How convenient.

Vote Firegoat
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07-26-2011 , 01:54 AM
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07-26-2011 , 02:10 AM
Add the evil laughter and you will know how I was when the thread opened.
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07-26-2011 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Firegoat777
Greetings,

Good luck everyone with the game. Having a few problems with my Internet so won't be able to post again today. Vote-Polycarpus
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Originally Posted by berksonz
How convenient.

Vote Firegoat
lol @ that first post, vote Firegoat777
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07-26-2011 , 02:26 AM
PrimordialAA



this guy is so great his name should always be in bold
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07-26-2011 , 02:48 AM
Hi all,

Excited to start another HUSNG werewolf thread. I was hoping the topic would be open already, but because it isn’t, I write my text in Word and copy it to the thread once it opens.

I don’t have a lot of experience, but I’d suggest a couple of strategies that might help the Village to have a decent shot at winning this game. Feel free to comment.

General strategy:
1) Talk a lot, but don’t talk nonsense. The more everybody talks, the more reads they give off, and the easier it gets for the villagers. It’s better to make wrong accusations, than to make none at all. But don’t talk to talk, without content, as it will make it harder to spot the posts that really matter. Better one thought-true post a day, including arguments, questions and a vote, in stead of several no-content posts.
2) Don’t ever discuss who we’re going to kill on another day than today. If we’re stating “tomorrow we’ll kill Player A”, or “if player B is still alive in 3 days, he has to be eliminated”, we’re giving the wolves too much info. They will kill the players who are more or less cleared, and leave us with the players we’re planning to kill.

Seer (protecting) strategy:
I’d ask everybody to post one “seer-read” per day. If we don’t, and only the seer posts his reads, he’ll be eliminated quickly. If we post one seer-read a day, we obtain two results. First of all we protect the seer. Second of all we clear our read. If I post on d1: Player C is a villager, and I get killed that night, than A) I got killed in stead of the seer, which is a great result. And B) Player C is a villager 95% sure. So every night the wolves kill one of us, we have an extra read.
Their counter strategy could be to “clear” one of their own by making a fake seerhunt kill, but that’s one extra night the real seer lives, and a huge advantage for us. Or they could decide to kill a villager that has not posted reads, but than again they let the seer live for one extra night. I don’t think they are willing to take that risk.
PLEASE POST ONE SEER-READ PER DAY.
Negative effect: This also somehow facilitates the wolves, who hunt for the seer, as they can pick people that have been correct every single time. We can counter this in two ways: 1) mostly pick villagers in your seer-reads. They have a better chance of being correct. 2) It’s ok if several people make the same read during a day. Not everybody should have a different read. Both these points should be a bit balanced imo.
This strategy only fails if a couple of villagers decide to follow it, and the rest ignores it!

Voting strategy:
I’d ask everybody to cast 1 vote every day, and do this at least 2 hours before EOD. And in stead of balancing and jumping from wagon to wagon, I propose we ALL choose between the top two voted for. Like we close round 1 of the votes at EOD-2, and we open a 2nd voting round, where you can (and should) only vote for one of the two top-candidates. It forces people to make a choice, and will disregard “safe” votes.
How do you guys feel about this? We can only do this if a big majority is in favour though.
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07-26-2011 , 02:57 AM
At the bare minimum villagers should try to not exclude themselves from being seer.

The other 2 wolves need to post so I can call them out and go to sleep.
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07-26-2011 , 03:22 AM
3, 2, 1...
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07-26-2011 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LXThrottle
PrimordialAA



this guy is so great his name should always be in bold
<3<3

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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
Hi all,

Excited to start another HUSNG werewolf thread. I was hoping the topic would be open already, but because it isn’t, I write my text in Word and copy it to the thread once it opens.

I don’t have a lot of experience, but I’d suggest a couple of strategies that might help the Village to have a decent shot at winning this game. Feel free to comment.

General strategy:
1) Talk a lot, but don’t talk nonsense. The more everybody talks, the more reads they give off, and the easier it gets for the villagers. It’s better to make wrong accusations, than to make none at all. But don’t talk to talk, without content, as it will make it harder to spot the posts that really matter. Better one thought-true post a day, including arguments, questions and a vote, in stead of several no-content posts.
2) Don’t ever discuss who we’re going to kill on another day than today. If we’re stating “tomorrow we’ll kill Player A”, or “if player B is still alive in 3 days, he has to be eliminated”, we’re giving the wolves too much info. They will kill the players who are more or less cleared, and leave us with the players we’re planning to kill.

Seer (protecting) strategy:
I’d ask everybody to post one “seer-read” per day. If we don’t, and only the seer posts his reads, he’ll be eliminated quickly. If we post one seer-read a day, we obtain two results. First of all we protect the seer. Second of all we clear our read. (1) If I post on d1: Player C is a villager, and I get killed that night, than A) I got killed in stead of the seer, which is a great result. And B) Player C is a villager 95% sure. So every night the wolves kill one of us, we have an extra read.
Their counter strategy could be to “clear” one of their own by making a fake seerhunt kill, but that’s one extra night the real seer lives, and a huge advantage for us. Or they could decide to kill a villager that has not posted reads, but than again they let the seer live for one extra night. I don’t think they are willing to take that risk.
PLEASE POST ONE SEER-READ PER DAY.
Negative effect: This also somehow facilitates the wolves, who hunt for the seer, as they can pick people that have been correct every single time. We can counter this in two ways: 1) mostly pick villagers in your seer-reads. They have a better chance of being correct. 2) It’s ok if several people make the same read during a day. Not everybody should have a different read. Both these points should be a bit balanced imo.
This strategy only fails if a couple of villagers decide to follow it, and the rest ignores it!

Voting strategy:
I’d ask everybody to cast 1 vote every day, and do this at least 2 hours before EOD. And in stead of balancing and jumping from wagon to wagon, I propose we ALL choose between the top two voted for. Like we close round 1 of the votes at EOD-2, and we open a 2nd voting round, where you can (and should) only vote for one of the two top-candidates. It forces people to make a choice, and will disregard “safe” votes.
How do you guys feel about this? We can only do this if a big majority is in favour though.
Good post, and good idea on everyone posting seer-reads every day, I never thought of doing that but it seems like it will give a ton of extra info.

One things I didn't understand though (bolded).

(1) In this situation, you call Player C villa, the wolves kill you thinking your a seer (both logical), but why does that make it sure that Player C is a villager? I feel like this could lead us into a trap, for instance, if I say Player B is a Villa, and I get killed (and player B was a wolf) then isn't this terrible for us to just assume they are villager the whole time?


Also, please remember DO NOT post seer reads today, the seer didn't get a peek on n0, so doing so will just give out info on who is NOT the seer :-p



edit: nm I understand the (1) part, it's cause they wouldn't waste a vote on someone who isn't the seer right? (if they picked a wolf, the wolves would know it was wrong and would never kill them cause they need to focus on hunting the seer)

Last edited by PrimordialAA; 07-26-2011 at 03:37 AM.
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07-26-2011 , 03:44 AM
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07-26-2011 , 04:10 AM
^^eek, didn't know, sorry guys! I didn't change anything else other than the edit: ------ part. won't happen again
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07-26-2011 , 04:21 AM
Hey, I subbed in for someone who dropped out before roles were given out. I didn't realize this was a crossover from the HU forum...hopefully I'm not taking a spot from someone in the community who wouldve subbed

I'm not sure if I like your 2 wagon only idea. I think it just gives wolves way too easy of a reason to vote a wagon and 3 wolves out of 13 ppl on d1 is a lot and it will only get worse until they get lynched

Also, no edits please
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07-26-2011 , 04:37 AM
i think i've played with about half the people in the game.

can:

Aksdal
YertleTurtle
crazyk951
Firegoat777
berksonz
IHeardJoeBlows

answer how many games of WW you've played?

and wtf at a HUSNGWW game without bob ross, can someone hunt him down irl for us?

also be VERY CAREFUL with majority lynches, they suck donkey **** for the village.

at what point in the game are we not allowed to unvote?
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07-26-2011 , 04:57 AM
and primordialaa^^
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07-26-2011 , 05:01 AM
I've played 3 games. 2 mislynches as villa on d1 and one NK as villa on n1
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07-26-2011 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Aksdal
I'm not sure if I like your 2 wagon only idea. I think it just gives wolves way too easy of a reason to vote a wagon and 3 wolves out of 13 ppl on d1 is a lot and it will only get worse until they get lynched
I played a live-version of this game a couple of times with friends and family. There it was the standard rule that the first round you can open-vote, than the top-2 voted-for can each defend themselves, and next there's a 2nd and final vote (without option to unvote), just between the two of them.
In our game all this is not mandatory, but I see some benefit in applying it. But I'm interested to hear how others think about that.

Also: I'm aware that the wolves will be able to push the votes in a certain direction, but they are able to do this regardless if we follow this strategy or not. But following it forces people to make a choice. You won't have the option of voting for somebody who isn't going to get killed anyway. So at least we will gain more information, as people will be forced to out themselves more.
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07-26-2011 , 05:41 AM
poly seems villagerish so far but he's done a bunch of the 'posts that look really pro-villa but are often used by wolves who want to be able to post something that won't draw suspicion that will likely by said/applied anyway.

Lx being his usual dramatic self :P

askdal/primo i'm readless

escuses for not posting are very wolfy, as are excuses for not reading up/not posting new content. 2 votes is enough for firegoat this early tho, luckily long day 1 will force him to defend himself b4 2nite.

i also tend to get abused for being to suspicious so bring on the rain.
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07-26-2011 , 05:45 AM
also lists are awesome, if you can only make one post a day, make it a list.
obv that's hard day 1 but it's still better than a 'oh not enough info so i won't post/vote today' post
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07-26-2011 , 12:08 PM
ok so from what we have to go on poly is pretty villagery so far and firegoat is kinda wolfy imo, obv this is based on only a few posts so its far from concreate, think i remember a reason for not doing the whole fake seer post thing from my last game tho, cant remember specifics of it off the top of my head but ill try look it up and see if there was a valid reason for it or not

def agree with chug on the majority lynch thing tho, they do not help the village at all, we need as much time as possible to be able to wagon/discuss etc. even if we have a solid wolf lean on someone i still think its better to hold off until closer to EOD before you cast your vote

anyways gl everyone hopefully this will be a fun game
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07-26-2011 , 12:24 PM
MODNOTE

As is the standard for most of my games, no majority lynch day 1, majority lynch in effect all other days.

MODNOTE
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07-26-2011 , 12:54 PM
Firegoats post is weird, it seems really ridic to be a villager and just vote for someone completely random.

Poly seems villa. Regardless if he isn't, don't we need to some sort of strategy to protect the seer ?

@Chuge: I have only played one WW game. With everyone advertising their WW experience, doesn´t that have a huge impact on the NK´s ? As in the most experienced villagers get killed first ? and the others that survive seem highly wolfish ?
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07-26-2011 , 12:55 PM
primo stop being such a wolf

im on my cell so no bold but PRIMO
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