The March race is very close, I wish I were a part of it

ya. i'll make a post about it once the sheet is done, possibly later today.

You did get the all-time best points total in Jan, can't have it all

I'd wager that Alex is above 50% to take it. A 35+ point lead with 8 games to go is pretty huge.

I won yesterday, and now I'm leading today for the b2b, but more importantly to achieve (joint) #10 on the all time DC wins list, which has been my objective for like 2 years...

Hoooooooooold.

Paul, were there actually 4 trophies up for grabs in the previous 2 battle royales? That doesn't seem right. There should be just one overall winner for each Battle Royale, however that's decided. I like waffles' method of adding your rank in each metric to get a final rank (4 being the nuts where you win each metric)

There were actually no trophies for either of BR1 or BR11. How they came about was during the time when I was updating the tournament summary page and creating the four majors. Zac agreed that the majors I was starting could have trophies. When I was looking at the past tournaments and saw BR1 and BR 11, I thought "how do these two 100 day tournaments not have trophies," so I asked Zac if the winners could get trophies. He said yes so I looked up in TC to see who won and it said Paul was the "Champion" for BR1 and mrgibson was the "Champion" for BR11. The TC site (by default) declares the champion by who has the most wins.

Shorty after that Paul brought to my attention in this thread that there were four separate metrics for BR1 and BR11, and I looked back in the TC thread and found the posts. (The relevant posts are 5522 and 5525) So, actually, according to the way the BRs were set up, Paul won them both (he won all 4 metrics in BR1 and 3 of 4 metrics in BR11). Mrgibson had the most wins in BR11. Paul and I has some PMs and what I did was list the metric totals and winners for all four in the notes section of the tournament summary page. This seemed like a workable clarification and we left it at that.

So, Arjun, when they ran BR1 and BR11, there was no plan for who gets a trophy, because trophies were not awarded until much later.

I do agree with Paul that there are really 4 "category winners" for each BR (but one overall champion).

At first I didn't think there should be 4 trophies. But, based on the results of BR1 and BR11 I don't think it is a bad idea, mostly because it is very likely (highly likely, actually) that only 1 or 2 of the 4 trophies will be awarded. Over 100 games the person who wins H2H is very likely to win average and lenc as well. So, it sounds like 4 trophies but will probably play out as 1 or 2.

PS. As for my personal opinion, I used to care and think it was important (the wins, the correct metrics, # of trophies etc), but I don't anymore. Not trying to be flippant, but I think I expended energy thinking/writing about this topic before and in retrospect it wasn't really that important one way or another. So, I'll be happy no matter what happens. I am just happy were are having a BR111. Others can decide how to award winners.

I would be very happy for you if I didn't come 2nd on both days...

Just kidding, congrats Kokiri - well played.

PS. You needn't have worried about your game holding yesterday. It was the nuts...

PPS. Also, I think you may have one other win that has not been credited. When that murph guy got booted off for cheating in May 2016 there was a win due to mrgibson for Feb 5 and one for you, me, velourfog and lilrascal for May 12. Not sure if they ever got manually added by Zac.

I'll take DC wins any which way I can get them.

Congrats kokiri!

I wanted to get on the front page for wins. I did it, and then stopped winning and have dropped out.

My 2 cents on the trophies is that 4 trophies cheapens the trophies, and we should just hand out one based on whatever waffles decides, since he is running it.

uggh. i missed the signup for BR3. Any chance of getting a late exemption add in, or is that impossible?

My original goal for the top 10 was because only the top 10 were on the front page at the time.

I agree on the trophies, especially since I'm not in the game.

I promised to stay out of this, but I would be remiss if I didn't suggest a perfect compromise between 1 and 4 trophies. Some people just play for wins and that is fine, There should be a trophy for most wins over a 100 games.


For the other 3 metrics (average, lenc, and H2H) they could be grouped and the person with the highest placing overall in these combined could get the other trophy.

So, there would be 2 trophies. One for wins and one for the other three metrics combined. Not only would this be a nice middle ground, but it would also be retroactively consistent with Paul and mrgibson both having trophies. If 4 is too many and one is not enough, then 2 would be great!!

Waffles and Paul, I hope this could be given some consideration. But, as i said, whatever happens is fine by me.

the Battle Royale III spreadsheet is now active. good luck to all!

if anyone notices any errors lmk

This makes sense, 2 trophies sounds good.

These are huge tournaments that run rarely, imo if someone wins one category/metric over 100 games against 20 opponents that is a huge achievement that should be worthy of a trophy. I'm not worried about devaluation of my trophy.

In BRII, Velourfog was extremely close to me in both average score (77 points) and H2H (40.5 total wins), but far away in LenC points (over 90 points), although only 2 points ahead of mrgibson in LenC points. Are we really saying that he would not have deserved a trophy if he'd won average score?

And how are we deciding winner as an average over 3 metrics? What if Velourfog had scraped wins in score and H2H but came a distant second in LenC? Does he win? What if he was third in LenC and first in the other two? What if there's the very unlikely situation where 3 people multi-way tie for the top 3 positions over the 3 metrics? Does margin of victory matter? How do we assess that?

This all becomes messy and problematic in a tournament that should be easy, fun and inclusive.

Like Arjun and Arctic, I'm happy for waffles to make the final call on this.

i tend to agree with Paul here. winning just 1 metric is a huge deal over 100 games. if not, it would be possible for someone to come in first in head to head yet lose average score and lenC and have someone else get the trophy which doesn't sit right with me. and the way the metrics are correlated chances are no more than 2 trophies will be awarded anyway.

sidenote: sorry kokirii, I would add you if I could but as far as I know even zac can't add you once it starts.

sidenote 2: I went to update the sheet today and realized that being able to see the stats for just the first few games could conceiveably be tmi. first update will be approx Wed after theres more data to muddy it up a bit

I like it Paul and warped. It could happen (4 different winners) though it is not likely. But, planning for it and agreeing that 4 will be issued if that does happen seems fair. After all, there are over 2000 games being played.

I was originally thinking that 2 would be a good number but then would probably have felt bad for suggesting that if we had (for example) one person have the most wins, one person win h2h and average, and one person win lenc. And then person who won lenc got nothing.

So, it probably won't happen but Paul's point that it could makes sense

Let's have fun folks!!!!

I am going to try and show restraint and not play all 100 games in 3 or 4 days. Lol

halfway through BR3 and it's a tight race. link to spreadsheet

^^^^^

Me thinks that Paul, Derwi, Guessinator and Consul are probably in the best spots right now. Paul's 21 games in hand and Derwi's 13 are both looking pretty valuable. Would be neat when this is done to look back and see what the scoreboard looked like when everyone was at their first 50 games (if it is possible to do that sort later).

ya those extra games are pretty big right now. i think paul was leading 3/4 after 25 games. breaking it down into whatever # of games groups will be easy enough once the tourny has finalized as well

That reminds me, this post backfired.

Anyone fancy a marathon h2h?

Sucks that you missed the deadline for BRIII

I'll play a big H2H match with you if you want. How many games?

Sure. What do you fancy - 50?

Yeah. 50 is good. Not sure how often Zac checks the site so I will email him to get it set up..

Cool. I'll bring the graphs, you bring the just missing out in round 9