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we win that 3-3 split 100 percent of the time as long as at least one of don/irtm is a wolf

if all the villagers vote the same person, and that person is a wolf, then the village wins even if the other person killed is a townsfolk, as long as it's not the saint

ALL OF THE VILLAGERS (NON POWER ROLES) NEED TO VOTE DON. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THE OTHER TOWNSFOLK VOTE IRTM

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06-15-2017 , 12:36 PM

#253

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Originally Posted by housenuts

I'm not changing my vote and I voted for IRTM

so you're villager and voted for IRTM
I think ihc voted for IRTM as well

so I think we have a problem here. there's definitely a turncloak.

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06-15-2017 , 12:36 PM

#254

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by housenuts

I'm not changing my vote and I voted for IRTM

if you're a villager, this is going to screw us in the event that IRTM is turncoat and Don is wolf

my math checks out, i'm fairly sure

please check it for me

but do so recognizing that if we have all the villager votes on a wolf, then the village wins even if there are MORE votes on a non-wolf

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06-15-2017 , 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

so you're villager and voted for IRTM
I think ihc voted for IRTM as well

so I think we have a problem here. there's definitely a turncloak.

oh haiiiiiiii

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06-15-2017 , 12:38 PM

#256

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sigh

whatever, i'm not gonna spend more time on this

i need to do some work

I want all the power role townsfolk to vote irtm and ALL of the villagers to vote Don

if there is a villager who does not vote Don, we lose if irtm is not a wolf, even if Don is

if all villagers vote Don, we win regardless as long as one of irtm and Don is a wolf

that's the last time i'll say it, so as not to belabor it further

i'm going to send in my vote and see everyone on the other side

gl us

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06-15-2017 , 12:38 PM

#257

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

you don't know how many villagers there are or if there will be a ringleader so it's impossible to really do the math.

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06-15-2017 , 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

I don't know if that's correct, please explain this to me

Deaths:
The player with the most votes after the voting phase is killed. There may be additional deaths after the voting phase, if any of the following are true:
Any player who ties with the most votes received also diesyer who ties with the most votes received also dies"
All Villagers (read: Villager role, not everyone on Team Townsfolk) vote for someone else who isn't the most voted.

it seems to me that whoever gets the most votes gets killed. additionally, all villagers kill whoever they all voted.

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06-15-2017 , 12:39 PM

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and if it turns out my math is wrong or i'm missing something big, sorry in advance

but i don't think i am

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06-15-2017 , 12:40 PM

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wolves should simply vote the saint in Toast and call it a day

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06-15-2017 , 12:41 PM

#261

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

it is 100 percent correct

guys, i really need to go and do some work

read what Stuck said at the end of the last game

even if there's ONE villager

we could have four townsfolk votes on irtm-the-turncoat

and if the only villager votes Don-the-wolf, then THE TOWN WILL WIN

but we NEED all of the villagers to vote Don

and all of the power role townsfolk to vote irtm

if a villager votes irtm, it screws the whole thing up

but w/e

i need to go now

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06-15-2017 , 12:41 PM

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I really think the wolf is Don anyway

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06-15-2017 , 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

you don't know how many villagers there are or if there will be a ringleader so it's impossible to really do the math.

it is NOT impossible to do the math

trust me on this

as long as one of Don/irtm is a wolf, we win 100 percent of the time following my plan if we can dodge the wolves all binking the Saint

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06-15-2017 , 12:43 PM

#264

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

I really think the wolf is Don anyway

then if all the villagers vote Don, WE WILL WIN THE GAME

everyone: if your role says "Villager," vote Don

if your role is a townsfolk other than villager, vote irtm

they are both outed aorn given that irtm has stopped posting

we win if we follow this

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06-15-2017 , 12:43 PM

#265

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Originally Posted by Donat3llo

wolves should simply vote the saint in Toast and call it a day

Screw it.

I'm about 99% sure we can't win here without binking the saint.
What's your best guess?

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06-15-2017 , 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

and if it turns out my math is wrong or i'm missing something big, sorry in advance

but i don't think i am

what i'm working with:

jay: gossip - 1 or 2 votes
you: towns - 1 vote
me: towns - 1 vote

the rest: could all be wolves/tc. if you, me, jay split votes it's either 3-1 or 2-2 on irtm/don.

the 3 possible wolves could stack on any of us and win.

in fact your math is really confusing me and making me wonder about your whole situation with jay, but can't do anything about it now.

trying to steer votes off irtm is either bad math or a wolf team of exactly you/jay/irtm.

everyone should shove on irtm.

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06-15-2017 , 12:44 PM

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one last time:

if Don is a wolf and irtm is a turncoat, then we will LOSE if there is any villager who is voting for irtm

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06-15-2017 , 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

DONATELLO AND IRTM HAVE BOTH JUST OUTED THEMSELVES

whatever

if you're a villager, switch to Don

out of my hands now

i'm going to do some work

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06-15-2017 , 12:47 PM

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The win conditions are confusing. Multiple death possibilities could equal multiple winnings teams. I really dont get who wins in a wolf + tc death. or a wolf + villa death.

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06-15-2017 , 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch

Screw it.

I'm about 99% sure we can't win here without binking the saint.
What's your best guess?

I think we should consider voting Toast or UFO

Toast has equity bc he binked you right out of the gate and I don't really think you were that bad.

Gad came in and thumb'ed toast's poast about locking in the vote for you

UFO has equity too bc he came in and binked the correct half of the player list, but that is more indicative of him actually being the tracker.

No one else has really pushed that hard, so it's toast or Gad

I'm inclined to think toast, but with Gad coming in and thumbing that lock vote post, it's entirely possible you were the peek.

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06-15-2017 , 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

my friend.

there is a turncoat. Don knows there is a turncoat. He is either the turncoat, or IRTM is the turncoat. IRTM stopped posting after hard claiming with me peeked as a wolf. Don seemed to be initially confused by that and started lolcatting after I said he was trying to not get lynched.

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06-15-2017 , 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

trying to steer votes off irtm is either bad math or a wolf team of exactly you/jay/irtm.

i guess this wouldn't make sense with UFOs tracker claim

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06-15-2017 , 12:48 PM

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if I'm right you're gonna lose us the game I think

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06-15-2017 , 12:50 PM

#274

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Originally Posted by Donat3llo

On the surface I want to go Toast too.
Def not UFO though.

It probably isn't Gad since Gad was willing whisper. Seems like a big risk to take.
Not sure about house though. The wanting everyone claim almost seems like cover.

So in my mind it either Toast or House.