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WTF the update deleted my contacts

because someone else is the tracker, or the role isn't in the game

But he definitely is not tracker, and claimed as such bc they know it would be suspicious for them to also claim villager. Heck they even mentioned it was suspicious that you and irtm claimed villa, so why would UFO then claim it?

They only had one other choice, tracker or wolf and lol at claiming wolf.

I believe we are def in a TC + wolf scenario and UFO is likely my wolf pick

irtm is a close second, but not sure why they claim saint for the draw

I don't know if a wolf has the ability to see a post in the thread and then quote it saying "ok, here's some info"

Whereas a villa that is that role would

It's thin though

he could have done it as tc. if you're wolf, then you see he's tc and the story is the same. alternatively could be a w/w move and now you have chat.

but that's just conspiracy theory and we don't have anything else to work with so we just have to trust you.

i mean Don is kinda talking nonsense, so

and irtm knows better than that saint claim

might just be that easy (which would be unlucky for the wolves)

but ufo IS capable of trickery, so i want to think this through

it's a fact that ufo was the last to post and could reasonably have inferred, as a wolf/turncoat, that there was no tracker in the game since nobody had claimed it

but i know that jay is villa

so that would only cast doubt on ufo/housenuts

and both don and irtm are acting kinda ridiculous

I say villagers should vote for you

I'm likely to blow it again

how

do

you

know

he's

not

tracker

?

stop begging the question by assuming your conclusion

from what I see, the whole game relies on you voting accurately. I know gad, you and ihcjay are not wolves. that leaves iraisetoomuch and donatello as possibly wolfing for me. they're both acting horribly throughout this thread and I think donatello said stuff that doesn't make any sense (saying there's no saint, no tracker).

I think what happened was: those were the two wolves but they didn't know how to properly play their hand because the game mechanics are confusing. that leaves iraisetoomuch with an awful seer claim, and donatello basically lolcatting in the thread.

Well then **** me.

with my 3 year layoff, I'd probably do something silly and wolfy like the wolves are doing.

tbh jay, this sequence actually made me slightly MORE suspicious of ufo, since housenuts clearly signals that tracker is the one power role that nobody has yet claimed

but idk

ufo, why aren't you posting more now?

I'm ready to vote for IRTM. I don't think there should be a ringleader as it just gives wolves outs if it somehow goes to a wolf.

wtf? I'm not talking nonsense.

I simply don't believe the tracker claim because of the timing.

I'm pretty positive we're in a 1 wolf + TC game, and it's entirely possible that irtm has been open wolfing to get lynched as the TC. Leaving UFO as the lone wolf who showed up last minute.

oh, you are posting more now

never mind

so what are you? vanilla villager?

I was trying to understand everything

No.

you still haven't claimed a role other than astrologer which isn't in the game.

you claim there's no tracker in the game, which is impossible to know.

you are full nonsense

IRTM isn't a villager

He might be TC I suppose, but it feels if Donnie wants to be lynched here

VAST TONAL GULF

Can we just go to vote? I dont want to play much longer and don't see anything changing. I'm voting IRTM

bolded shows donatello was trying to distance himself from his wolfbro saint claim and ended up botching it

risk-reward is out of proportion there, though, unless ufo thought about it, like, five levels deep

he claims tracker as wolf, he doesn't know who the other wolves are, if any

if we believe him, he takes off the table three lynches who are not him, two of whom have been supervillagery, and focuses it on two people who have not been villagery and who (from his perspective if he's a wolf) could easily be wolves

if we don't believe him, or if he gets counterclaimed by a sandbagging tracker, then we lynch him a good chunk of the time

whereas he could have just come in and blended with the villa/saints if he was confident in his tone-ability, which he would have to be regardless to fakeclaim tracker

your level of certainty does not match the facts on the ground

also, i'm fine with being the ringleader also

villagers, me or jay, your choice

Sorry I'm conflating my belief with factual assertions. I do not believe there is a tracker in the game. I do not believe the Tracker claim and I think it's entirely possible UFO is wolfing here, which makes it more likely irtm is likely the TC.