for what purpose?

Hard claim Saint.

UFO is a wolf.

If ya'll vote me, village loses.
But if the plain villagers vote for UFO, they can still win even after I get voted on by the wolves.

yup, we can have the villagers all vote one of them and then non-villager townsfolk all vote the other, i think that works in theory?

lemme run this down

ihcjay
hardcoreufo
housenuts
gad

^^^none can be ww if ufo is not lying (and nobody counterclaiming him makes it likely?)

leaving

don
irtm

on the other hand, is there a gambit whereby (sort of like last game) ufo is the turncoat and knows that, say, house is the only wolf? he would be vulnerable to someone counterclaiming him, but then he'd be likely to be lynched himself, and the wolves would win regardless (and even if we correctly pegged him, then everyone would still have to decide whether he was shielding me or housenuts)

this is obviously less likely if in fact jay had gossip info that ufo was the tracker

but hmm

jay, there's value in us whispering, i think, just on the off chance that you're correct about me and that therefore ufo could conceivably have binked that claim

If we believe both UFO and Jay,

then me, gad, jay, ufo are villagers. me and gad do have tc possibility.

out of irtm/don at least 1 has to be a wolf.

If ufo or jay are playing us, then good job.

i think it's virtually impossible for ufo to be a wolf

and i think it's pretty unlikely for you to be the saint

fwiw

I am confirmed not a wolf, and I'm also pretty sure there isn't a tracker now.

Gadarene and ihcjay are now whispering

more like GODarene amirite

Jay did your gossip info say ufo = tracker?

this is incorrect btw

if the wolves vote the saint, the village loses regardless whether a wolf also dies

how are you confirmed not a wolf?

Except there isn't a saint or tracker in the game and UFO is the second wolf, or one of house and Gad are TC and UFO is the lone wolf. which explains the late arrival

No

Skype or PM?

Isn't this exactly what could have happened yesterday when you as the only villager (if Ace didn't show up) could have won anyway by voting for a wolf?

Bc I didn't rand wolf

There is no tracker in the game, and I don't believe irtm's saint claim

So I think we're def in a TC + 1 wolf scenario, with UFO as lone wolf and one of you or house is the TC. Or one of you is wolfing.

hmmmm. so your gad info was correct then? you are whispering with him now. i assume he shared his role first?

shouldn't you counterclaim tracker at least?

Wrong quote there, but that was still directed at Gad.

oh, whoa

why is there no tracker in the game? but there's an astrologer according to you.

compelling argument

why would there be no tracker in the game? how would you even know that?