M1ke's claim is that he is an evil angel - HUGE downside to leaving him alive.

just from today

people who aren't morans -
kkcountry
m1ke
well named
OR
swiitch

morans -
zurvan

BECAUSE THAT CONFIRMS XX, A LITTLE BIT?

If you're a seer, and you know nobody believes you, do you

a) Tilt at windmills
b) Try something productive

Deputy is a seer that only gets full powers when the original seer dies. FWIW, eskimo didn't put anything in the OP about a wolf angel, and you seem to have no problem believing that.

Thanks for playing the game. You do realize you can make your point without being an *******, right?

you know who else should start posting lolcats?

atakdog

atak had 89 posts in POG yesterday and not a single one was in this thread!!!!

I don't think you're a moran

oh but i still want to lynch xx today

Of course I'm not a moran. I'm right, ffs.

So killing an utr player who made a couple of seerish posts means what then? No one was talking about Joe Butch at all, and Joe Butch wasn't doing much talking, so you're saying it wasn't a seer hunt?

I think he is tilting at windmills by following his 'peek'. What exactly has he done that's been productive since he came out?

I'll restate what I told Luckay when Manupod was on the block. If the guy is too ****ing lazy to save himself, why should he be saved?

He also didn't mention that there was an evil roleblocker, but you have no problem believing that.

Now that we're done with the snippy remarks, how about you look at the way M1ke's peek came out, vs the way XXS came out and tell me again why we need to believe XXS at all here?

I'll go one better, it was posted in the OP that some players have revival powers (and we saw that someone already died with a revival power). How about we lynch XXS today? If he's the seer, I look like an ass, we know where we stand, we lynch m1ke tomorrow and someone has the option of using a 1 time revive on him.

But keeping someone alive on a 1% chance they could be seer, while the wolves make what look like seer hunting NKs, hoping that the wolves will eventually resolve it for us, is stupid.

How many games have people gotten away with claiming seer, then claiming to be roleblocked, so the village left them alive until we got into enough of a ****ed up position that we had to resolve it? Let's resolve it now.

If XX IS the seer, and the wolves want to kill UTRs hoping we lynch XX, that's a plus for the village. If he's a wolf and the wolves kill UTRs hoping not to hit the seer to save XX, that's a plus for the village. If they seer hunt and kill the seer, we lynch XX, and it's neutral for the village. If they seer hunt, miss, and the seer comes out, then, again, we carry on as usual, and it's village neutral.

I say we don't make a decision until we're forced to. That's all. As implausible as XX being anything other than a wolf is, it's not impossible. I just don't see why we NEED TO resolve this RIGHT NOW with the 4th lynch. We have time to decide.

I've highlighted the key thing you missed here.

zurvan,

if i were to say i used a one time peek on m1ke n1, and was told he was also a villager with a one time peek, would that change anything?

Pretty much the only thing that will change my mind on this is somebody dying as Gen, or approaching must lynch and NEEDING to make a choice before a mistake ends the game.

My reasoning here is pretty simple:

- We have nothing to lose leaving xx alive as a wolf
- We have something to lose killing him as seer

If he IS a wolf angel, then the only rational use for his power is to protect himself. Let him, imo. As long as a vigilante doesn't do something silly and waste a kill.

back on teh moran list imo

No villager can be certain that XX is a wolf. You can be PRETTY SURE, and things look REALLY BAD for him, but you cannot be CERTAIN.