The Resistance Game Thread

[BombayBadboy]

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

well it sucks a lot that e.g. on the second mission we need FOUR villagers to get it through. if it's true that the first mission always succeeds because a spy wouldn't out himself that early, it's pretty ****ing tough to win it regardless. i can't think of a optimal strategy. i mean i could think of one if people actually voted accordingly, that's probably not going to happen.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

well it makes sense that it can be -ev for the wolves to vote accordingly with only three players to vote i believe. at least that's what's been said copiously in websites i saw about the game. although with 4 wolves that might not apply.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

just thought of something. if luckay comes with mets/ibav that might force them to vote for the mission. as ibav said, we won't let their missions go through otherwise. of course that only works if luckay is a villager.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

not sure if regular WW tone reads apply. spies don't have all the information

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

^^ nevermind. they do.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

it's actually pro-villa that they do, except for mission 4.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

i'll go to bed now, sorry for spamming the thread with bad strat and stuff. i'm drunk.

Don't know too much about this guy, but this flurry of posts looks pretty good I think.

• He already goes back and forth in a villagery way.
  
• He shows "brainwaves": he seems to be thinking about strategy, doesnt even let it simmer but posts right in the thread.
  
• Obviously thinking about a good villager strat.
  
• He is drunk.

Off to work now. But Luckay, I think you need to pick this guy on the team.

[BirdieLongSocks]

Thought while working.

What if we dont mind if the first two missions fail and instead try to set them up for max information, moving focus from chance of success to information.

In my mind that sets up diffrent teams

[BirdieLongSocks]

Originally Posted by BombayBadboy

Don't know too much about this guy, but this flurry of posts looks pretty good I think.

• He already goes back and forth in a villagery way.
  
• He shows "brainwaves": he seems to be thinking about strategy, doesnt even let it simmer but posts right in the thread.
  
• Obviously thinking about a good villager strat.
  
• He is drunk.

Off to work now. But Luckay, I think you need to pick this guy on the team.

What he said

[LuckayLuck]

I'm going to pick in about 50 minutes

My tentative team will be said in about 20 minutes

[BirdieLongSocks]

The leader should theoreticly always include himself, atleast in the begining, we should be fine with it.

Blindly refusing to send
Thingy

Fine with
Domer
Hardcore
Leader

[shanks]

Originally Posted by LuckayLuck

I'm going to pick in about 50 minutes

My tentative team will be said in about 20 minutes

Luckayluck if you pick me, I'll polish your shoes.

[LuckayLuck]

Here are my top 4 villagers so far (in no particular order):

Mets
Ibavly
Bombay
Hardcore


I'll likely be choosing 2 out of those 4

[shanks]

Originally Posted by LuckayLuck

Here are my top 4 villagers so far (in no particular order):

Mets
Ibavly
Bombay
Hardcore


I'll likely be choosing 2 out of those 4

Bombay and hardcore only option IMO

[LuckayLuck]

Ibavly

Originally Posted by ibavly

seriously though

send the next 2 leaders on the mission?

Thinking strategically about game

Originally Posted by ibavly

I don't think we should allow the leader in the team

Thinking strategically about game (though bad advice imo)

Originally Posted by ibavly

lowers the power of wolves

we gain info on more players

Thinking strategically about game (to back up previous statement - makes some sense)

Originally Posted by ibavly

but wolves are 40%

so losing one to get rid of 2 villagers is worthwhile

Thinking strategically about game (from a villager perspective - wolf would be afraid to say this I think)

Originally Posted by ibavly

I think strategically what I have said earlier makes sense. I'm not leader for a long time.

But this game is mathematically pro-wolf. We need to establish accepted villagers at some point.

If the team feels that I am fit I am more than happy to fight for the resistance every round.

Not pushing himself to be in the team very strongly, a "team player" villager sort of tone here

Originally Posted by ibavly

thought: wolf leaders are more likely to pick two villas since it increases odds of approval and hurts the villagers reps

Thinking strategically about game and again probably something a wolf wants to keep to himself rather than say




All in all ibavly has thought about things from a villager perspective, re-considered his one strategy I thought was questionable (don't send yourself as leader) and tone wise just seems like a villager.

Very likely to pick ibavly

[LuckayLuck]

metsandfinsfan

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

luckay

i am 100% a villager. i dont have any way to prove it to you. and i have no idea if you are one or not,

you do know me pretty well though. and i know you pretty well. your last wolf game against me, you pushed me and lynched my fakepeek and nightkilled me. generally, when you are a villager, you know i am

so if you dont pick me, i will consider you a wolf.

which means unless i am somehow convinced that the other 2 people you picked are villagers, which is pretty unlikely, then i will vote against the team

capish?

Starts with what I consider metsy-villagery (very aggressively pushing for himself to go on the mission since "the only guy he can trust is himself") and aggressively states he'll vote against everything else

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

if luckay is a wolf im pretty sure the first mission will succeed anyway

villagery perspective strategy comment

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

well we have to allow the leader i think

if the leader is a villager, then he needs to go 3/3 instead of 2/2 if he doesnt send himself

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

if mission 1 fails, then all 3 people on mission one can never be leader or on any team

so they would be stupid to let it fail the more i think about it

if i were a wolf, id prob pick 1 wolf buddy and 1 villager and pass the mission

villagery perspective strategy comment

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

i trust ibav i think and would love it if you picked he and i

I too trust ibav and it was a good read at this point

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

id have to think the wolves are the favorites based on the numbers. if the first 2 missions fail it's almost unrecoverable

thinks the wolf team is the favorite
that's a villagery perspective

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

ok so say the leader is a villager

the odds of him picking 3 villagers is 5/9*4/8*3/7=15/126 or less than 10%

the odds of him picking 2 villagers is 5/9*4/8 = 5/18 or almost 30%

yes, this is with no info

but the leader has to include himself

people against it are either wolves or not smart

mets a big advocate in leader choosing himself, which I feel for mission 1 is almost certainly correct



My conclusion is mets is pretty villagery and is someone I could see picking for the mission

[LuckayLuck]

HardcoreUFO

Not sure why I had him as a villager
On re-read he's not that villagery

I think it's because he was really active in responding and was very "here's my thoughts" - I mean - transparent.

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

not sure if regular WW tone reads apply. spies don't have all the information

(they do)
lots of posts like this which are incorrect (if first 3 leaders are wolves, village loses, etc)

but the way they were flurried together and the way he came up with them seems like a villager perspective

Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

i'll go to bed now, sorry for spamming the thread with bad strat and stuff. i'm drunk.

Conclusion: Village lean

[LuckayLuck]

BombayBadBoy

Originally Posted by BombayBadboy

Heh. Fair enough.

I think we shouldn't discuss wolf strategy for one very important reason: they cannot communicate with eachother so they will have some trouble coordinating their moves. Some might not even know any proper strategies so I propose we are not going to give them any ideas.

Good strategy

Originally Posted by BombayBadboy

Don't know too much about this guy, but this flurry of posts looks pretty good I think.

• He already goes back and forth in a villagery way.
  
• He shows "brainwaves": he seems to be thinking about strategy, doesnt even let it simmer but posts right in the thread.
  
• Obviously thinking about a good villager strat.
  
• He is drunk.

Off to work now. But Luckay, I think you need to pick this guy on the team.

Ah yes part of why I had hardcore villager is because of Bombay

I pretty much agree with the points above on why hardcore is a villagery

Bombay "village hunting" is villagery and I liked his strategy earlier


Lean villager on Bombay

[LuckayLuck]

LuckayLuck's Proposed Team

Mission 1: LuckayLuck, Metsandfinsfan, Ibavly


Now, everyone will send a PM to Reno Extat either saying they are FOR or AGAINST this team. 6 FORs (or more - a majority) passes, 5 FORs or less will cause the next leader to propose a team for Mission 1.

Your vote is public but you PM Reno Extat since we all vote simultaneously


You are allowed to state what you PM'ed him (and you can lie)

You can try to convince everyone the vote is good or bad



I chose my two most likely villas so I voted FOR

[BirdieLongSocks]

I am with shanks, hardcore and bombay was the better pair

Might be with it regardless, will decide when i get home

[BirdieLongSocks]

How about we get the three leaders next (ll + 2 more) to out their teams they would send?

Or maybee the first five should?
Domer, if we vote down ll what team will you send?
Same question to those next in line

Still working for another 4-5 hours but this is all i think about