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12-02-2022 , 01:36 AM
One thing I forgot to mention. Sometimes I'd adjust my bet sizes specifically to try to change my opponent's raising range. I didn't even think about this at first because your bet size just seemed standard. But there were times where I felt like game theory was telling me to bet a certain size but I felt like if I actually made a bet of that size then it would actually cause my opponent to accidentally play correctly against me because my bet looked weak and would invite some bluff-raises (which I didn't want to call because my hand wasn't very nutty). So if you're worried that your opponent had an optimal raising range against you then you should ask yourself if you'd still think the same thing if you had bet a different amount.
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12-02-2022 , 11:35 AM
Soah and I play poker way differently.

Anyway I could get behind hero folding flop or maybe turn sometimes but by river I probably sigh call.

Had one at 2/5 that I may have semi punted. Opened 33 utg to 15, whale on button calls, bb makes it 55, I call? button calls, flop 258 two clubs I have no clubs, bb 80, i make it 200 with about 600 behind, button fold bb looks like he wants to fold but eventually calls, turn 7, he checks I check? (probably just rip if live read good, river 8 he bets 225 I jam he folds fairly quickly.

I don't play holdem obv

Also had one at plo, I have a995 nut spades, goes 8 way! at 50 each, flop q95 two spades, checks to me i check kinda nitty guy pots it, one caller I call?, turn offsuit 3, checks to aggressor he pots it with about 900 behind, fold, on me and I tank a bit knowing i just have to get it in but thinking I'm dead a lot, get it in and win against 55xx (think this guy has every combo of kk but not many of 55 which I also block and not many wraps since I have nut spades, think he takes free turn, I should probably just bet turn myself to be honest even though it is a bit silly in flow)

I would have folded without spades
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12-18-2022 , 09:43 AM
Our boy is leading the wpt championship with 37 left. Seems like he's really worked hard to get good at all the games.
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12-19-2022 , 12:07 AM
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Our boy is leading the wpt championship with 37 left. Seems like he's really worked hard to get good at all the games.
still leading with 13 left
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12-19-2022 , 11:01 AM
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still leading with 13 left
1/6 with a milly already locked up
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12-19-2022 , 11:04 AM
leading day 3 4 and 5, had it on lockdown until eliot burst towards the end

feel like they should fix these structures a bit? I've played one day tourney final tables at like 6 am and that's bad enough
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12-19-2022 , 02:12 PM
What's his 2 + 2 name?
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12-19-2022 , 02:34 PM
Blero blalue
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12-20-2022 , 11:24 PM
Second place for our gent but I suspect 2.83 mill will ease the pain some.
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12-20-2022 , 11:37 PM
Yeah some fun hands, after how things started waking up with queens and laddering to second not so bad.

Last hand couldn't brick!?!?
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12-24-2022 , 02:22 PM
20/40 O8. I have A2xx and don't raise pre. 5 players to the flop for one bet. the board comes 458 and we cap. turn is a J and capped again. river pairs the 4 and i bet and get called by two people. the other guy who had been raising with me shows A3. so now i can check that off the bucket list of not raising A2 pre so that a guy with A3 thinks he has the nut low and have it pay off massively for me.

the other caller won the high with 99, lol.
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12-28-2022 , 09:26 PM
Logged on to PokerStars, figured I would see if I could recover the stack I deservedly lost yesterday when I got set over setted.

Nanostakes, just for fun, not meaningful money.

Seated at a new table, I’m BB and it’s dealt 3 handed. First hand, AA.

Button limps, SB raises 3x, I reraise pot. Both call.

Flop JT4r.

Check, I bet ~3/4 pot, button shoves for a little more than a min raise. Fold, I call.

Button shows K4o.

Turn blank, River (you saw this coming too right?) 4.

One hand, good night, close laptop, what is on TV.

(Sorry to bore real poker players, which I am not one, with a bad beat story. I just thought it was kinda funny that I played exactly one hand. Poker is stupid.)
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01-11-2023 , 12:06 PM
I’ve gotten to know Benny pretty well over the part few summers, very happy for him.
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01-18-2023 , 12:12 PM
Sick bad beat last night at my local casino cash game, AA vs AA all in pre I said to the guy if he wants to just split it without dealing any cards as risking 400BB is a bit dodgy, lot of money etc and he agreed. Dealer didn't understand what was going on so dealt the cards anyway and I would've won with a flush

Of course i'm a man of my word so I split it anyway the guy was like cheers for that and spend the rest of the night saying his £800 could've been mine lol good job I have a sense of humour
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01-18-2023 , 02:58 PM
Is that even allowed!?!

Some story of a guy asking to run it twice before all in with other people already all in. Don't think you can allow that in casino setting.

I only run it twice when I feel like it
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01-18-2023 , 03:09 PM
It's allowed at my local casino it's basically just pretending the hand didn't happen at all, pretty sure i've also seen it on a live stream somewhere on Poker After Dark/High Stakes Poker or something.

I just play for fun not about the money so if I get it all in pre with AA i'm nice and always say we can run it twice or if it's an AK vs QQ flip etc
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01-18-2023 , 03:20 PM
I'm nice!
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01-18-2023 , 05:29 PM
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Is that even allowed!?!

Some story of a guy asking to run it twice before all in with other people already all in. Don't think you can allow that in casino setting.

I only run it twice when I feel like it
Once at the Wynn Macau a new player who was really bad as he didn't understand the game and was just bleeding off chips. He'd sat down with a couple large chips and was making change with them as needed. Lost a few buyins and kept on pulling out big chips from his pocket to reload at the table. Don't think he raised once. Just called everything all day.

We go to a flop and he checks and I cbet with top set. He meant to call my raise but accidentally check raised. a few times earlier, he tried to make change with a big chip of his before calling a bet and the dealer just told him to put the chip in and then he'd make change. So this time he goes ahead and does that without first having a conversation with the dealer of "what do I do now"

However, my raise was a funky number like 350 into a pot of about 600, so he threw a big chip (don't recall but probably a 10k chip) along with a 50 chip to make it easier for the dealer to make change. The dealer declares raise, he's genuinely confused and tries explaining it is a call. I'm of course considering that this could be the mother of all angle shoots where you intentionally chip dump thousands in horrible donkey play (IE maybe he intentionally lost to friends to establish the image) only to setup a single play like this. But... I'm holding the nuts. If I wasn't holding the nuts I probably just fold here too wary it's an angle but I'm holding the nuts and already have over $100 usd of HKD committed into the pot

Guy was really nice all day at the table and had already lost a few buyins. Was clearly a nice guy who had some money and was tired of baccarat so decided to learn poker. I felt kinda bad about this situation. Especially that it would have been overly optimistic to believe I'd win more than 10k off him in this single raised heads up pot.

So everyone at the table is advocating on his behalf that he clearly didn't mean to do it and we should follow the spirit of what he intended. Dealer calls floor over and floor rules the bet is standing and I can either fold, call, or raise.

I tell the guy, look man, I can't fold, I have too much invested here. I also have the best possible hand. So how about this. I call, we check it down and run the board out. Whoever wins gets the main pot, but we both get back our 10k additional. He instantly agrees. Dealer and floor who are standing there watching this take place do not say a word. I put in chips, we flip our cards, and the dealer immediately deals out the turn and river. What's important here is we both had chips behind and he didn't pause at the turn as if he was going along with our arrangement.

Flop is something like J47 rainbow, I had JJ, he had KJ. Turn and river are obviously KK.

Dealer scoops the pot and gives it all to him. We're both like wait a second? We had a deal. The floor declares that no such deals can be made. The guy then takes a 10k chip and tosses it to me but the floor immediately intervenes and says if I don't give him that chip back immediately we'll both be kicked out and banned from future play. At this point we're both livid because they saw us making the deal and didn't say a word. They said it wasn't their job to get involved in discussion and they were just doing there job.

So of course I'm in a real sour mood. I want to rack up and leave but the guy is still sitting at the table. So now I'm thinking he may just decide to go along with the ruling and keep my 10k. Knowing I'm too tilted to play, I just sit there folding and kinda trying to talk to the guy about taking a break etc but he's just ignoring me. After maybe an hour he gets up and says "hey rickroll, I'm going to get a cigarette, you want to come with me" we both walk down the hallway where he explains that he waited until the floor left because he was just standing at the main desk watching us forever. With my back to the desk I had no idea. So we step outside the Wynn and he pulls out his wallet and to his horror he see he only has like 8.5k in cash remaining. He says he's out of the chips he brought as they are all on the table now and suggests that we can go to an ATM, but at this point I'm so incredibly relieved he is actually paying me and so I just take that amount and call it a done deal knowing that had he not ffed up it would have cost me probably my entire stack of 40k or so as neither was going to be folding and with a boat he may have finally put in his first intentional raise of the day.
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03-02-2023 , 04:35 PM
here's something i've been adding to my game. i notice that in most live NLH games, when there is a limper (or more), a late position player often puts in a pretty big raise. people often talk about how sizing should be $X + $Y * limpers, but that conventional wisdom seems to have been arrived at from empirical play (limper stickiness) and not from any theoretical underpinnings. Also, the sizing is often much more than that, and it a theoretical mistake that is underexploited by other players. The reason why these big raises often work well is because the limpers usually have a weak range, and you're making the pot much bigger with position even if you don't always have a premium hand, and the limpers very often just call.

what i do a lot is, if there are many players in the game making big raises (e.g. in a 2/5 game, raising $30 over a limper), if I am in one of the first few seats opening the hand, I will limp close to 100% of my opening range (which is still fairly narrow, since this is my normal EP opening range). this frequently results in overlimpers and/or a big raise from late position. I then 3b the top 80% of my range. This lets me play a lot of very big pf pots with a range advantage, even though it means I am OOP.

One of the things I give up by doing that is not being able to raise first in with a premium hand. But I mostly make this play on tables where it's very likely that it will be raised behind me, and a "standard" raise of say $15 usually won't get 3b and is much less profitable than playing a $100 pf bet (which happens quite often).

wdyt?

Last edited by iversonian; 03-02-2023 at 04:42 PM.
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03-02-2023 , 04:42 PM
Biggest immediate problem is possibly high rake when you limp and it goes a bunch of limps.

I do a decent amount of limping in the plol games I play but that's sometimes to keep in hands I dominate /people who will put in tons of money post. Sometimes I do small raise. Or normal raise.

Hope would the player pool react if you started making it ten dollars?
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03-02-2023 , 04:43 PM
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Hope would the player pool react if you started making it ten dollars?
if you open with a raise in EP, it very seldom gets 3b (see edit above), whereas a limp draws out the aggression, as they assume these are all weak ranges (and weak players).

or at least, that is the table dynamic often enough where i employ this strategy.
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