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lost 10k tonight

one guy straddles and the guy in the hj says if it folds to him he'll raise. im in the sb with KK. hj raises to 80 without looking. the whole table knows im gonna raise. i make it 320. straddle calls without looking! hj makes it 880 with 2200 behind. i shove 4500. straddle has me covered and looks at his hand and says "f*ck!!!" he goes into the tank with AQ. he mucks. hj calls me with AT and wins. of course.

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04-29-2017 , 05:34 AM

#28503

filthyvermin

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lost 5k, then battled back to where i was up $9. then last hand of the night, i had my chips all racked up, i lost 2k

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04-30-2017 , 05:48 AM

#28504

filthyvermin

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5/10/20

pro opens 70 from utg+2. im next and i call with TT. straddle is a fish and he calls.

flop J63r. check, check. i bet 140. they both call.

turn(630) 8
checks through.

river T. no flushes. straddle bets 360 with ~900 behind. pro calls. i make it 1200.

good? bad?

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04-30-2017 , 06:53 AM

#28505

Precept24

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:thumbup:

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04-30-2017 , 07:20 AM

#28506

Booker Wolfbox

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So which one had Q9o?

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04-30-2017 , 10:46 AM

#28507

aaronk56

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

So which one had Q9o?

The one that didn't have 97o

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04-30-2017 , 11:52 AM

#28508

pwnsall

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flop bet is marginal

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04-30-2017 , 12:09 PM

#28509

soah

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Flop bet is fine and pretty standard.

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04-30-2017 , 12:15 PM

#28510

pwnsall

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specifically against a fish straddle and preflop raise checker it seems okish

seems like we have tons of better bets and tons of better bluffs

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04-30-2017 , 12:28 PM

#28511

soah

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A flop bet can be correct even if it's not strictly a value bet or a bluff. Giving a free card to two players with this hand will give up a fair bit of our pot equity. And spots like this come up often enough that balance should be taken into consideration, and if we're checking back with hands as strong as this one then we don't have much credibility when we do need to bluff to win the pot.

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04-30-2017 , 02:36 PM

#28512

filthyvermin

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flop bet isn't great, but it's probably pretty good.

basically what soah said.

im much more interested in thoughts on the river bet

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04-30-2017 , 02:48 PM

#28513

pwnsall

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Seems good

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04-30-2017 , 02:57 PM

#28514

soah

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Unless I'm missing something, you raised 3/4 pot on the river with the fourth nuts on a board where it's hard for anyone to have the nuts or second nuts and where the action gives no reason to suspect that anyone has the third nuts. What's the question?

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04-30-2017 , 03:17 PM

#28515

filthyvermin

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well here is my doubt... if the fish has a hand he can call with that i beat, it's gonna be a set, two pair, or an over pair. it's really hard to see him playing flop and turn the way he did with one of those hands, especially turn.

so i guess it comes down to betting an extra 1k that he horribly misplayed his monster hand AND will make a pretty awful call now on the river... vs... that he made a bad flop call and got runner runner straight

the pro next to me said my raise was terrible. i didn't think so. idk, maybe he was just mad

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04-30-2017 , 03:38 PM

#28516

soah

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I don't expect to actually get called too much there but that also makes it a good spot to bluff, which should at least give the pro an opportunity to talk himself into looking you up after the fish folds. Also, I'm not sure why you think that the fish wouldn't check the turn OOP without the initiative with a big hand.

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04-30-2017 , 04:23 PM

#28517

filthyvermin

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thanks guys! i appreciate the feedback

the fish did have Q9, but i still think it was a good raise.

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04-30-2017 , 05:13 PM

#28518

HUstylez

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extremely trivial raise

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04-30-2017 , 07:14 PM

#28519

iversonian

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so you called his shove?

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05-01-2017 , 08:04 AM

#28520

fnord_too

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Originally Posted by iversonian

so you called his shove?

filthy put him ai with the raise i think.

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05-05-2017 , 03:31 PM

#28521

Bloobird

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37719184

BTN: $22.13 (221.3 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $12.74 (127.4 bb)
UTG+2: $11.83 (118.3 bb)
MP1: $10.30 (103 bb)
Hero (MP2): $20.36 (203.6 bb)
MP3: $15.34 (153.4 bb)
CO: $39.43 (394.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9

UTG+1 raises to $0.20, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($1.05) T

(5 players)
BB bets $0.60, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, BTN raises to $4, BB raises to $9.80 and is all-in, MP1 raises to $10.10 and is all-in, Hero raises to $20.16 and is all-in, BTN calls $16.16

Turn: ($61.27) J

(4 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($61.27) 2

(4 players, 3 are all-in)

Spoiler:

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lolmicrostakes obv, but that's some solid flop action

BTN was a massive fish, I think it's a puke-fold otherwise

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05-05-2017 , 04:03 PM

#28522

DWetzel

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raise flop imo?

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05-05-2017 , 04:12 PM

#28523

Bloobird

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quite possibly, I don't think calling is that bad either given it's multiway with the fish left to act though?

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05-05-2017 , 05:32 PM

#28524

fnord_too

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calling here pre is fine IMO. You could squeeze (which, player specific stuff aside, is usually the only time I 3 bang smaller pairs pre), but it's a mini raise so, yeah, I think I'd just go for post flop play.

LOL at that flop hitting everyone about as hard as possible though, that's some movie type floppin there.

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05-05-2017 , 06:07 PM

#28525

DWetzel

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Originally Posted by Bloobird

quite possibly, I don't think calling is that bad either given it's multiway with the fish left to act though?

It's multiway, so someone is drawing, and we shouldn't give free cards/odds I don't think

Plus the others have something and we are clearly way ahead (except here of course).

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