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06-22-2015 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i too played ~30 hours this weekend. im turning super degen like filthy. made heaps playing 5-10 nl but gave it away at the greatest 3-handed and heads up 10-10 plo game
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through 14 hours of plo im only stuck 566$, so that's pretty cheap
So you define "heaps" as $566?
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06-22-2015 , 03:05 PM
to be fair, i think it implies $566 is the rounding error that results from winning heaps and losing heaps
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06-22-2015 , 04:18 PM
correct

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06-22-2015 , 05:11 PM
When am I going to see you at the Parx annie? I could maybe do the borg again, but that is almost an hour further away for me.
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06-22-2015 , 05:19 PM
when i get a car! possibly sooner
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06-22-2015 , 10:14 PM
I built my WSOP.com 'roll to $155 from $24 over the weekend, 3-tabling .05/.1 6-max
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06-22-2015 , 10:37 PM
Just won a four way all in on 3d4h8hqd with adqs7s4d. Would have folded flop but the guy bet 100 into 300 everyone called and I closed the action
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06-23-2015 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
life haunter for years? really? i've played some incredibly painful hands, but the misery has always gone away in at most a month or so.
Yeah it's already subsided with the decompression of coming back to real world stuff, but I did spend nearly all of yesterday walking around the office muttering to myself like ****ing Rain Man.

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i want to hear about ur lagtard. my lagtard might be able to beat yours.
Mine was oddly quiet and gentle-natured for a lagtard. But for a long time, he played 90% of hands and bet or called every street, no matter what.

Typical hand was a preflop raise and then barreling all three streets for $25/$50/$80 on a A5558 board. I call the river and show AT, he nods and mucks. This happened over and over, he'd get stacked about every other hand, and then pull three $100 bills out of his seemingly bottomless wallet. Rinse, repeat. For hours. It was bizarre.

I'd say he was just clueless, but his behavior wasn't newb-ish (he also took a lot of smoke breaks, so missed several hands and blinds, etc).

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oh btw, i never heard "its all over baby blue". since u posted about it, i've listened to it about 100 times
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06-23-2015 , 06:41 PM
Here's one early hand from before he showed up. Normal-ish MP raises to $15 after a couple early limps, I smooth QQ from the cutoff+1 wanting to play vs. the laggy big blind's huge stack (he was on a heater and giving monster action) with a concealed big hand, he calls and I think it's just 3-handed.

Flop is 9h8s4h. BB leads for $25, pfr calls, I call. Turn is 5c. BB bets $60, pfr calls, I ??.

(BB has been chasing and hitting all kinds of draws, but also had a good sense for getting thin value out of 2nd pair type hands vs. the spewtards at his end of the table...as laggy as he has been, he's not stupid and I haven't seen him show a bluff yet...but would seem like might have it in him on a board like this vs. two players he knows can make a laydown)

(PFR could have anything from a big flush draw to JT to an overpair, or even a 9...I can take him off even AA or KK on a lot of rivers imo, or with a raise here depending on BB's action in between)

Anyway, I just call, river is a 2x. BB comfortably bets out $125. PFR folds. What a mess.
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06-23-2015 , 06:51 PM
River seems like a trivial call
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06-23-2015 , 06:56 PM
^Ya, this
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06-23-2015 , 07:04 PM
yeah river is an easy call. but i think you should have raised pre. i understand why you didn't raise. but i think you're gonna get called a lot of times by the fish in the bb even when u raise. AND you're looking to get into a big pot vs TWO players in a non 3bet. one pair is not a great a hand for that. and there were some limps. you REALLY dont want to get a billion people in the flop without making them pay

you should also raise the flop imo
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06-23-2015 , 07:27 PM


I folded, natch. It just felt like a set or 98 (maybe 76) with him leading the river into two decent players. Afterwards I'm kicking myself for trying to get into that exact spot and then pussing out when I got there, but what I expected/wanted was about the same line, but then he check-calls $80-100 on the river with K9. I think JJ is the lowest non-bluff hand he value bets that river with.

Filthy, he wasn't fishy enough to play his crap hands for $40 there. Anyway, he later stacked the semi-proish guy on my right twice a couple hours apart (once with AA vs. KK pre, once with 55>AQ on a Q5xxA board). Then the lagtard showed up and he stacked him three or four times (seriously, two hands in a row, lagtard stacks off to him and then rebuys the max from his stack).

So this mother ****er was sitting with over $2500, making jokes about whether anyone had any more black chips he could buy. That's when things got good.
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06-23-2015 , 07:29 PM
trivial!
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06-23-2015 , 07:46 PM
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I folded, natch. It just felt like a set or 98 (maybe 76) with him leading the river into two decent players. Afterwards I'm kicking myself for trying to get into that exact spot and then pussing out when I got there, but what I expected/wanted was about the same line, but then he check-calls $80-100 on the river with K9. I think JJ is the lowest non-bluff hand he value bets that river with.

Filthy, he wasn't fishy enough to play his crap hands for $40 there. Anyway, he later stacked the semi-proish guy on my right twice a couple hours apart (once with AA vs. KK pre, once with 55>AQ on a Q5xxA board). Then the lagtard showed up and he stacked him three or four times (seriously, two hands in a row, lagtard stacks off to him and then rebuys the max from his stack).

So this mother ****er was sitting with over $2500, making jokes about whether anyone had any more black chips he could buy. That's when things got good.
different people play different styles, but i hate calling with QQ there. you said there were a couple of limpers. how deep are you? is it 1/2 or 2/5? you could easily end up with like 6 or 7 people seeing the flop if you don't raise, right?

if it was 3/5 $15 is sooooo cheap. my standard open at 3/5 is $30. my standard open at 1/2 is $20.
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06-23-2015 , 07:50 PM
Internetz taught me 3x bb or even smaller for pfrs. yet I see people advocate $12 opens at 1/2 etc. confused
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06-23-2015 , 07:51 PM
Hmmm. Just lost a 7k pot nut flush against set in turn. We run it twice he binks both
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06-23-2015 , 07:54 PM
players on the internet will exploit you much worse than live players. live players will be exploited much worse than internet players
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06-23-2015 , 07:59 PM
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Internetz taught me 3x bb or even smaller for pfrs. yet I see people advocate $12 opens at 1/2 etc. confused
I mix it up.

My average pfr in early position is $8. $6 will get you a lot of callers if that's what you want. $10 starts to get people to fold more.
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06-23-2015 , 08:01 PM
Filthy, it was 1-2. My standard at 1-2 is $8+2 for every limper. But I pfr a lot.

One thing that affected my pf smooth-call on that hand is that I limp-RRed to $50 UTG with JJ after a tight-ish dude made it $15 over a few limpers from the SB. Cutoff, who limped, then shoved for his ~$135 stack, SB tank folded, I called, cutoff shows KK, and I luckbox a Q8xT9 board. SB said he folded QQ.

Everyone on my side of the table talked about what a horrible play it was by me for several hands afterward.

pwns

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06-23-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Hmmm. Just lost a 7k pot nut flush against set in turn. We run it twice he binks both
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06-23-2015 , 08:24 PM
Probably never ever flatting QQ in that spot pre
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06-23-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Filthy, it was 1-2. My standard at 1-2 is $8+2 for every limper. But I pfr a lot.

One thing that affected my pf smooth-call on that hand is that I limp-RRed to $50 UTG with JJ after a tight-ish dude made it $15 over a few limpers from the SB. Cutoff, who limped, then shoved for his ~$135 stack, SB tank folded, I called, cutoff shows KK, and I luckbox a Q8xT9 board. SB said he folded QQ.

Everyone on my side of the table talked about what a horrible play it was by me for several hands afterward.

pwns
if everyone is talking about how horrible you are at getting it in with bad hands, that's when you HAVE to raise QQ pre.

limp/raising with JJ utg is a great play. calling someone's reshove is highly player dependent if you are fortunate to have reads. there are some players who will NEVER shove over a limp/raise without KK/AA. there are some guys who will do it with 75s

also lol at the cutoff calling a bunch of limpers with KK. and YOU'RE the terrible one lol!

if the table is talking about you, that is a great great time to exploit your image.
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06-23-2015 , 10:19 PM
Yeah not 3-betting QQ when you have a questionable image is even worse.
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06-23-2015 , 10:28 PM
If I raise to $45, BB likely folds. Everything but the pocket pairs that beat us, anyway.
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