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POG Werewolf 2015 Rankings Cup ***Elite Eight (Day 1)*** GAME THREAD POG Werewolf 2015 Rankings Cup ***Elite Eight (Day 1)*** GAME THREAD
View Poll Results: Which players should win and advance to the Final Four?
EE1: Montecore wins
6 10.91%
EE1: insanity31 wins
43 78.18%
EE2: DWetzel wins
24 43.64%
EE2: domer2 wins
28 50.91%

10-07-2015 , 09:27 PM
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10-07-2015 , 09:28 PM
interesting

what about the wolf stats domah
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10-07-2015 , 09:32 PM
ask him about our vanilla/slow game records!
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10-07-2015 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
Similarly, our mash wolf games are different styles. He's more out on the edge (due to meta), I'm more of a survivalist working in the shadows who can still push a crucial high-leverage mislynch through when needed and stay out of suspicion while doing it. I think if you're a villager that just went to DVC after n3, my name is one of the two or three you're least happy to find out is a wolf because you just know the rest of the game is going to suck while you watch your team get pushed off the edge of the cliff and you just pray the volume of lock clears gets there in time.
agree on different styles, and looks like you're a good wolf

6-7 win/loss, but that is deceiving because you've never died before day 3, and of the 6 games you've won, 4 are survived wins. 2 lynches & 2 concedes out of 13 games, which is pretty darn good!

excluding the 2 games where i subbed in as a peeked wolf (Fast Food & GoT2), my W/L is 10-3, with 3 survived wins and 3 lynches.

my style is much more polarized, i either die early or live a little while, 0 deaths on day 3.

but while I am alive, I almost always lead the wolf team, including spreadsheets, night kills, and general strategy. people who don't pull their weight are encouraged to sub the **** out...no room on the ship for deadweight losers. so i like to think that despite dying early a few times, my emotion continues to live on in the team, and people try a little bit harder. hence the extremely good win/loss record.
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10-07-2015 , 09:39 PM
I mean, again, the fact that you make a larger early game IMPACT as a villager is something I kind of conceded, so congratulations on accentuating the positive
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10-07-2015 , 09:41 PM
Dwetzel, given that domer is only in this competition because you organised a write-in vote for him how do you feel about that decision now?
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10-07-2015 , 09:45 PM
haaaaahahaha

yeah, I know right?

it's fine, win-win either way, either I get to the final four or I'm clearly the visionary who was willing to take a stand for justice
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10-07-2015 , 09:46 PM
the hero POG needs but not the one it deserves
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10-07-2015 , 09:57 PM
Dwetz this is where you point out Domer once subbed in as a wolf and subbed out an hour later
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10-07-2015 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
Dwetz this is where you point out Domer once subbed in as a wolf and subbed out an hour later
nah, I'll let that one slide

what I will do is when I subbed in for the wolfy wolf who made like 27 posts in a day and a half when his role required 400 posts in 4 days for maximum effect, I came in, WIMMed the hell out of it, got there, and survived the game

so I got that going for me, which is nice
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10-07-2015 , 10:06 PM
that was great

edit:

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DWetzel, you are Darth Sidious. You are one of the most powerful Sith in the history of the galaxy, and you control the Galactic Empire. You are the Sith Emperor.

You have 2 lives. You will be informed when you have lost your first life, but the village will not be.

You have commissioned the construction of the Death Star. On day 4, the Death Star will go online. You are also secretly constructing a second Death Star that will be ready on day 5 should the first Death Star be destroyed. Once completed (*either* on day 4 or on day 5 at the earliest), the Death Star will be able to eliminate 1 villager for every 100 posts you have in the game, with a minimum of 1 kill and a maximum of 4 kills.

The Death Star cannot be activated while Wedge Antilles remains alive. If Wedge Antilles dies, the Death Star can be activated the next day phase after his death, but not before day 4 or day 5.

As you can see, my young apprentice, your power roles have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!

Last edited by domer2; 10-07-2015 at 10:11 PM.
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10-07-2015 , 10:06 PM
people that already voted in this poll are missing out.
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10-07-2015 , 10:15 PM
not so great: getting the death star blown up anyway just because
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10-07-2015 , 10:22 PM
that game was very swingy

Luke Skywalker was nearly lynched the night before he blew it up

and then when he blew it up, I remember disko wanting to quit thinking the wolves had a 0% chance to win
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10-07-2015 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
my village stats:

dies day/night 1, the village is 2-5 in those games
dies after night 1, the village is 12-5 in those games

killed day 1/night 1 in 30% of my village games
i don't understand how these stats mean much when there are so many other variable factors to take into account.

and don't get me wrong. i'm not dissing on your "stats", i just honestly don't understand how this is actually indicative of anything.

please feel free to enlighten me, just looking to learn here.
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10-08-2015 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
that game was very swingy

Luke Skywalker was nearly lynched the night before he blew it up

and then when he blew it up, I remember disko wanting to quit thinking the wolves had a 0% chance to win
Sigh

I randed 50% night vig, targeted Disko twice and failed both times
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10-08-2015 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Beck Novo
i don't understand how these stats mean much when there are so many other variable factors to take into account.

and don't get me wrong. i'm not dissing on your "stats", i just honestly don't understand how this is actually indicative of anything.

please feel free to enlighten me, just looking to learn here.
wolves depend on village disorganization and chaos

killing the people who try to provide order is often the easiest way to win as a wolf

PR hunting is usually impossible on night 1 in a mash, so wolf teams instead opt for SPKs to eliminate villagers that are vocal and could organize things

the other problem wolves face with strong villagers is that these players are very unlikely to be killed by fellow villagers, and wolves win via village/village violence
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10-08-2015 , 07:22 AM
Domers confirmed #stats are convincing me more than Dwetzel's #walls of text
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10-08-2015 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
wolves depend on village disorganization and chaos

killing the people who try to provide order is often the easiest way to win as a wolf

PR hunting is usually impossible on night 1 in a mash, so wolf teams instead opt for SPKs to eliminate villagers that are vocal and could organize things

the other problem wolves face with strong villagers is that these players are very unlikely to be killed by fellow villagers, and wolves win via village/village violence
right, but how can you attribute those wins/losses to your survival? i suppose that it's telling to look at the numbers at large and assume that you're the sole reason for either, but it's also difficult to ignore the possibility that the wolves may not have been as strong or that you had another villager that was guiding the team, too

really i'm not trying to take away from what you've done because you've made it this far on a write-in vote, and will likely make it further - you are by far a consensus favourite

but i just dont understand how these stats, used by anyone, are anything but intentionally misleading

/$0.02
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10-08-2015 , 12:47 PM
72% of all statistics are made up on the spot

/.02
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10-08-2015 , 02:40 PM
My vote is still up in the air

Enough with village stats I'd like to hear why you're a good wolf

If you cant wolf, you can't WW
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10-08-2015 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
My vote is still up in the air

Enough with village stats I'd like to hear why you're a good wolf

If you cant wolf, you can't WW
I got the greatest player of all time lunched to win a vanilla at f5 after lynching the seer d2 because I could
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10-08-2015 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
not so great: getting the death star blown up anyway just because
At least we had a top tier backup to the backup
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10-08-2015 , 03:25 PM
Villaging stats are misleading as they are.
Dwetzel is a bro wolf.
Also #samples and ####stat dynamics.
**** stats
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10-08-2015 , 03:31 PM
Star Wars was definitely a HOF-worthy wolf team. in spite of Vagos
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