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06-24-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
Oh, do I love this...Let's investigate the investigators...
Hey look, a disguised Brietbart link. How odd that you always feel the need to disguise your gabrage
06-24-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
It occurs to me upon reading his posts that Zorkman is quite unfamiliar with many of the important facts of the case being discussed.
Oh, he's familiar with the only part of the case he needs to be.

Cop good

Black man bad.

Bootlickers worldwide agree with point 1.
06-24-2017 , 11:39 AM
The thing is, it's vastly preferable that it were just "racist cop shots black guy", because the alternative is systemic problems that go way deeper than just some bad cop. Bad cops you can deal with relatively easily.
06-24-2017 , 11:41 AM
Can you?

Seems much easier to solve the problem of throwing people in jail for frivolous reasons, with alleged due process.

I see what you mean now

Last edited by pwnsall; 06-24-2017 at 12:02 PM.
06-24-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
The thing is, it's vastly preferable that it were just "racist cop shots black guy", because the alternative is systemic problems that go way deeper than just some bad cop. Bad cops you can deal with relatively easily.
Except for anyone paying attention at home it is quite clear that it is actually both of these options since the two things are connected.
06-24-2017 , 12:06 PM
This was not a particularly racist cop. This was just a cop. And cops are racist. Law enforcement in general is racist. It's not either "racist cop" or "system problem". It's "there is a systemic problem such that law enforcement is racist".
06-24-2017 , 12:30 PM
I wouldn't disagree with that.
06-24-2017 , 12:33 PM
I'm putting this here because it's the sort of opinion that doesn't exactly go down well irl:

I'm glad the election result was what it was, and more hopeful than I've been for a while, but I still think Jeremy Corbyn would/will make a terrible prime minister. Possibly a less terrible one than the other likely options.
06-24-2017 , 12:34 PM
Also, my initial instinct is that President Mark Zuckerberg is not something I really want.

Last edited by kokiri; 06-24-2017 at 12:35 PM. Reason: I mean, he'd be way preferable to trump, but so would pwnsall, ffs.
06-24-2017 , 12:57 PM
i doubt cops are more racist than anyone would be if they became a cop, on average

not sure if birdman was saying otherwise

maybe some self selection but not a ton
06-24-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
I'm putting this here because it's the sort of opinion that doesn't exactly go down well irl:

I'm glad the election result was what it was, and more hopeful than I've been for a while, but I still think Jeremy Corbyn would/will make a terrible prime minister. Possibly a less terrible one than the other likely options.
Why, that stuffs great! I love trolling irl about nobama!

Forget if I've mentioned this before but you can kinda rank presidents on an absolute value and a value over replacement president value. In that sense you could both say obama was the greatest president and not a very good one and be consistent enough.

Also I think I'd be a decent president. I'd be like Hillary but with less bombing people and spying I think. Although maybe I would become one of them after enough time.... Oh yeah and a focus on more jobs and employment rather than inflation and whatever else.

Also Zuck is kinda whatever as a president. On first thought I have a couple problems. He'd be too powerful at that point, and a lot of the smart tech guys (and "smart" people generally) seem to view humanity as a problem that has to be solved/too paternalistic/think they have the unilateral power to decide what's best for everyone.
06-24-2017 , 01:12 PM
The lesson from the 2016 election was not that a rich guy with zero political experience being president is a good idea.

If Zuckerberg/The Rock/Mark Cuban have political ambition, fine. Start with being mayor or representative or something like that. Then in 2028 or so we'll see how you did and whether you might be able to cut it as president.
06-24-2017 , 01:19 PM
I forget if done before but here is where I got on this test just now trying to answer honestly. Slightly left of where I got last time I took it. I'm becoming too much of an ideologue

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test



Yes some questions are dumb and weirdly worded or have no real correct answer.
06-24-2017 , 01:36 PM
I'm more like pwnsall and less like Gandhi than I think I was last time:

Your UK Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69


06-24-2017 , 01:44 PM
As pwns said the test is pretty silly, but here is what I got:

06-24-2017 , 01:48 PM
Hey now, why do you hate freedom?!?!
06-24-2017 , 01:52 PM


(Whatever; -5.63/-5.79, like anyone cares)
06-24-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Hey now, why do you hate freedom?!?!
I don't really understand why they says its possible to be fascist and communist at the same time. That doesn't make sense.
06-24-2017 , 01:56 PM
I imagine they mean like Stalin the misunderstood or Kim Jong the not really communist communist.

I think we all more or less know your take.
06-24-2017 , 01:59 PM
what a silly test

06-24-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
The only thing worth responding to in Zorkman's post is this:



This paragraph is chockers with lies.

1. He told the policeman he was not reaching for a gun but getting his wallet.
2. He was not "reaching and grabbing" for anything.
3. His gun was not "in his pocket". It was in the small of his back. He never touched a gun, certainly never "grabbed" one.
4. The policeman gave him no opportunity to respond to his demand he not pull out his wallet but shot him as he was shouting it.
1. Do you really expect the officer to bet his life on someone telling the truth? The man was disobeying his commands!
2. The evidence states otherwise, and the jury agreed with that evidence. Unanimously.
3. You don't know that, and the jury chose to believe the eyewitness--the officer. And that is understandable, given the circumstances.
4. Not true.
06-24-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
Also, my initial instinct is that President Mark Zuckerberg is not something I really want.
Please put him up against Trump. That will make things easier.

Ossoff Part Deux
06-24-2017 , 02:09 PM
Zorkman, you do not understand how a trial works.
06-24-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by amplify
what a silly test

That's pretty much everyone's graph who posts here except mine.
06-24-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
I imagine they mean like Stalin the misunderstood or Kim Jong the not really communist communist.

I think we all more or less know your take.
I'm not even talking about Stalin. Just in general. Like isn't the random **** about Stalin mostly claiming he wasn't actually communist or something? Maybe I'm not as familiar with the present day liberal hand-wringing as I thought.

      
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