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06-15-2017 , 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I forgot giffords was shot by a david duke supporter

Oh wait no it was by someone who took hallucinogens everyday.

Get your facts before telling people to **** off
There doesn't seem to be much that indicates he took hallucinogens every day. Where did you get that from?
06-15-2017 , 02:41 PM
Coming into this thread and arguing against the right is weird.
06-15-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
And people on the right (including specifically our own Zorkman) were calling for Hillary to be "locked up" (or worse) both before the investigation was concluded, and after it was announced that the investigation was closed without any charges

The stance on the rule of law is obvious, and it doesn't agree with their lies coming out of people's mouths today; their stance is "how can I bludgeon people into something that's beneficial to me personally, and **** the integrity of the system"

Well, guess what, that work both ways. At the risk of dating myself, as the old drug PSA from the 1980s said, "we learned it by watching you".
Yes people rationalize what they want how they want.

Good reason not to compare things like baking gay cakes to getting life saving surgery.

You've taken the first step in learning how to think.
06-15-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
There doesn't seem to be much that indicates he took hallucinogens every day. Where did you get that from?
Not sure anymore but point was the guy was crazy and apolitical so comparing that to what happened yesterday is inappropriate
06-15-2017 , 02:52 PM
LOL luckbox applies here obviously
06-15-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Not sure anymore but point was the guy was crazy and apolitical so comparing that to what happened yesterday is inappropriate
I notice you're strangely silent on the parts where the sitting president encouraged this exact behavior from his supporters and so did sitting republican senators

Also, excellent excellent job getting your own facts straight

Last edited by DWetzel; 06-15-2017 at 02:59 PM.
06-15-2017 , 03:03 PM
I mean, you have to be some special kind of partisan drooler to think that every time a right wing nut job shoots up a school or a black church or a mosque that it's just always random mentally ill people with absolutely no connection to violent right wing rhetoric, but the one time a Republican gets shot it's the first shot in a civil war

Ignoring all those other shots is kind of a you problem

(see, e.g. Infowars)
06-15-2017 , 03:06 PM
Well I'm driving on the interstate so I'll be remaining silent
06-15-2017 , 03:08 PM
I mean, calling it a "civil war" is exactly the kind of violent rhetoric (calling it a war surely makes it OK to shoot the "enemy", since that's what a war is ldo)

so when some BLM people get shot up by the 3 percenters, that's obviously part of the civil war but it's OK because they "started it" if you ignore all that other violence that preceded it

Show me one Republican authority that speaks out against that

go on

I'm waiting
06-15-2017 , 03:13 PM
you could also say yourself "hey, that guy is an absolute crackpot, I condemn that in the strongest possible terms, that sort of rhetoric has no place in our society, he's an idiot and I'm going to ignore him in the future", since we've decided to be concerned about this stuff today and are willing to attack an entire half of the political spectrum based on the actions of one nutter

In the interest of intellectual honesty

(I'm waiting)
06-15-2017 , 03:21 PM
"Within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.”

"President Reagan said, “We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.” Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own. They begin and end with the criminals who commit them, not collectively with all the citizens of a state, not with those who listen to talk radio, not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle, not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies, not with those who proudly voted in the last election."

- Sarah Palin, 2011

"Lol democrats killing people then pushing for gun control

Despicable"

- - Luckbox, 2017

I really would like you guys to pick a lane that isn't "anything bad that happens to them is a mere tragic coincidence, anything bad that happens to us is a vast left wing conspiracy"
06-15-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
By saying that you hold Americans relatively more valuable? Ho hum.
I identify more with those whose experiences I have shared.

And my instinct is for preservation of #self.
06-15-2017 , 03:37 PM
06-15-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I identify more with those whose experiences I have shared.
Being "American" is neither necessary nor sufficient to achieve Society in this instance.

culture, expectations, metaphysical beliefs (science, etc), etc
06-15-2017 , 03:40 PM
who's in your community?
06-15-2017 , 07:11 PM
I read something I liked today. Going to post it when I get a chance.
06-15-2017 , 07:12 PM
It was about something that I think is called "legal positivism" and it reminded me of a lot of posters in this thread, most notably IANAW.
06-15-2017 , 11:19 PM
I'm rather disappointed no one is calling out master on his ****.

He continues to misquote me as having said there is evidence of something when I said exactly the opposite, and he refuses to retract his mischaracterization.

It's rather distracting, and I don't feel I can participate in conversations with folks who are just going to let that go un-booed.

So I'll be a silent reader from now on because I doubt anyone ever takes my side on this, even though it's a clear matter of fact, not opinion.

I mean, really, how can I defend against something when I am not just misquoted but quoted OPPOSITE to what I said, and then I challenge him to find it and he finds something that proves him wrong and he doesn't retract?

I'm sorry but the rule against discussing posters has to have an exception when they are littering the thread trash mouthing you for double speak when they are the ones who altered the quote to make it appear as if I am double speaking.

Please, anybody? If nobody then this is my last post.
06-15-2017 , 11:25 PM
lulz

It definitely felt like it had been a while since Zorkman threatened to stop posting
06-16-2017 , 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I identify more with those whose experiences I have shared.

And my instinct is for preservation of #self.
Rosita says you don't know her
06-16-2017 , 02:14 AM
Zorkman you said there was evidence Trump did not obstruct justice.
06-16-2017 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonkey Manana
Rosita says you don't know her
I think she means we haven't met, which is irrelevant to the greater point.
06-16-2017 , 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I think she means we haven't met, which is irrelevant to the greater point.
No she says you have no idea what her experience is.

I accept of course that you feel the groups you belong to should be advantaged. That's reasonable.
06-16-2017 , 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorkman
I'm rather disappointed no one is calling out master on his ****.

He continues to misquote me as having said there is evidence of something when I said exactly the opposite, and he refuses to retract his mischaracterization.

It's rather distracting, and I don't feel I can participate in conversations with folks who are just going to let that go un-booed.

So I'll be a silent reader from now on because I doubt anyone ever takes my side on this, even though it's a clear matter of fact, not opinion.

I mean, really, how can I defend against something when I am not just misquoted but quoted OPPOSITE to what I said, and then I challenge him to find it and he finds something that proves him wrong and he doesn't retract?

I'm sorry but the rule against discussing posters has to have an exception when they are littering the thread trash mouthing you for double speak when they are the ones who altered the quote to make it appear as if I am double speaking.

Please, anybody? If nobody then this is my last post.
Jesus ****, nobody cares. I quoted your exact post. You said that "It has become clear that there is no evidence" implying that there is some type of evidence that evidence hasn't been found. I'm not mischaracterizing ****. Stay or go, nobody gives a ****.
06-16-2017 , 08:36 AM
To the extent we share experience, regardless of whether we know it or not, we are the same. The more we come to acknowledge the extent of our shared identity (ie, via meeting and "getting to know" one another), the more I expect we will act accordingly.


I don't understand why you have to shoe-horn "advantage" into this. Step outside but not to brawl.

      
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