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06-03-2016 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Dude just stop. It's not a "sweeping generalisation" to postulate that the son of Mexican immigrants might be partial to Mexicans. This argument has been made a billion times in all different manners to try and get judges, lawyers, and jury members removed from cases.
06-03-2016 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
lol, what Wookie doesn't get is us "racist" people don't think Mexicans being loyal to Mexico is some kind of horrific character flaw.
The judge in question is not Mexican.
06-03-2016 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Dude just stop. It's not a "sweeping generalisation" to postulate that the son of Mexican immigrants might be partial to Mexicans.
Let's go ahead and stop your post right here, because you didn't even make it 25 words before posting nonsense.

What does Mexico have to do with anything in this case? It has nothing to do with anything.

Trump is saying that by virtue of the judge's race & heritage, the judge is completely incapable of impartiality on any topic relating to Trump. He flat out accuses a Federal judge of "bias" by virtue of (1) his being of Mexican descent and (2) the fact that he has lost prior rulings. It is bat**** insane, unhinged discrimination that is beyond defense.

Maybe time to take a deep breath, stop frothing at the mouth, and do a little critical thinking before weighing in further.
06-03-2016 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Let's go ahead and stop your post right here, because you didn't even make it 25 words before posting nonsense.

What does Mexico have to do with anything in this case? It has nothing to do with anything.

Trump is saying that by virtue of the judge's race & heritage, the judge is completely incapable of impartiality on any topic relating to Trump. He flat out accuses a Federal judge of "bias" by virtue of (1) his being of Mexican descent and (2) the fact that he has lost prior rulings. It is bat**** insane, unhinged discrimination that is beyond defense.

Maybe time to take a deep breath, stop frothing at the mouth, and do a little critical thinking before weighing in further.
Where's the middle ground? Can't you simply disagree with his logic without assuming racism on his part? You started to by making a good argument that WN also mentioned, which is that the judge is not himself Mexican. I don't think his argument will hold up, but I'm not going to break out the R card for it.
06-03-2016 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Let's go ahead and stop your post right here, because you didn't even make it 25 words before posting nonsense.

What does Mexico have to do with anything in this case? It has nothing to do with anything.

Trump is saying that by virtue of the judge's race & heritage, the judge is completely incapable of impartiality on any topic relating to Trump. He flat out accuses a Federal judge of "bias" by virtue of (1) his being of Mexican descent and (2) the fact that he has lost prior rulings. It is bat**** insane, unhinged discrimination that is beyond defense.


Maybe time to take a deep breath, stop frothing at the mouth, and do a little critical thinking before weighing in further.

Maybe it's time to stop assuming things that aren't true. Where am I frothing at the mouth over this? I don't even agree with Trump, I wouldn't remove the guy. I just am capable of disagree with someone without asking him to wear a Scarlet R under his clothes.
06-03-2016 , 01:04 AM
Is the middle ground that he'll just pull any angle (including the angle that shall not be named) he can to squirm out of the lawsuit? I think that's what you're implying, right?
06-03-2016 , 01:08 AM
Ironically enough, the standard reaction to the the question of the removal of the Mexican is why it is a valid question to ask to remove the guy. Social Justice and the media has done such a good job dividing everyone and making everyone think everyone is out to get their race, that questioning whether a Mexican judge can remain impartial now frankly becomes reasonable.

Also Well Named, I know I'm incorrectly calling the guy Mexican when it's just Mexican Descant. God I'm being sooooooooo racist and ignorant right now aren't I? How dare I shortern the terminology of his identification even though everyone knows what I mean. God I am such a bigot. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend the Eukaryotic Prokarayotic Insectian Reptillian Mammalian Australopithecus **** Erectian Neanderthalian Native American Mexican American Judge
06-03-2016 , 01:09 AM
lol, h0mo got censored hillarious! I meant it in the latin!
06-03-2016 , 01:10 AM
I was self censoring for your sake
06-03-2016 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
Where's the middle ground? Can't you simply disagree with his logic without assuming racism on his part? You started to by making a good argument that WN also mentioned, which is that the judge is not himself Mexican. I don't think his argument will hold up, but I'm not going to break out the R card for it.
You can't disagree with his logic without assuming racism on his part because his "logic" is racist.

If this is the standard of debate atm, no wonder the post reports have been flying.

BTW, can we please stop reporting each other for trolling and the like? This is the politics thread. Disagreeing robustly is part of the "fun".
06-03-2016 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Where am I frothing at the mouth over this?
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Grow up and enter the real world. God you people are infuriating.
The salt & frothiness is palpable. Practically a 3-D effect on my monitor.

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I don't even agree with Trump, I wouldn't remove the guy.
Who cares where you lie on the judge?

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I just am capable of disagree with someone without asking him to wear a Scarlet R under his clothes.
Again, your own agreement or disagreement with Trump is completely moot. Nobody cares, including me.

We're talking about whether Trump is a racist or not. Let's keep focus on the argument here, because you're all over the place.

You apparently do not think Trump discriminating based upon the judge's ethnicity is racism, you labeled it "nationalism" (lol). Meanwhile, I think it fits the exact definition of racism. I don't think this issue is at all nuanced, so one of us is right, and the other a looney toon who should probably stop spamming this thread with terrible posts and go take a walk or something.
06-03-2016 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Ironically enough, the standard reaction to the the question of the removal of the Mexican is why it is a valid question to ask to remove the guy. Social Justice and the media has done such a good job dividing everyone and making everyone think everyone is out to get their race, that questioning whether a Mexican judge can remain impartial now frankly becomes reasonable.

Also Well Named, I know I'm incorrectly calling the guy Mexican when it's just Mexican Descant. God I'm being sooooooooo racist and ignorant right now aren't I? How dare I shortern the terminology of his identification even though everyone knows what I mean. God I am such a bigot. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend the Eukaryotic Prokarayotic Insectian Reptillian Mammalian Australopithecus **** Erectian Neanderthalian Native American Mexican American Judge
I think what you guys need to get straight is that it's not social media's calling you out for being a pack of racists and sexists that's causing dissension in our societies. It's that you're racists and sexists.
06-03-2016 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
You can't disagree with his logic without assuming racism on his part because his "logic" is racist.

If this is the standard of debate atm, no wonder the post reports have been flying.

BTW, can we please stop reporting each other for trolling and the like? This is the politics thread. Disagreeing robustly is part of the "fun".

No, you're absolutely wrong. Suggesting bias in someone can be incorrect but not racist. It would only be racist if he somehow thinks his own race is beyond any potential bias and it can only occur in "lesser" races. And there is no evidence he thinks that way. Furthermore White people are constantly accused of this type of bias without the "omg racist!" reprisal.

How many times have I been reported? lol? I've never reported anyone in 2+2 in my life for anything, god libs are such babies.
06-03-2016 , 01:18 AM
welcome back!
06-03-2016 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I think what you guys need to get straight is that it's not social media's calling you out for being a pack of racists and sexists that's causing dissension in our societies. It's that you're racists and sexists.
In your (incorrect) opinion.
06-03-2016 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
The salt & frothiness is palpable. Practically a 3-D effect on my monitor.



Who cares where you lie on the judge?



Again, your own agreement or disagreement with Trump is completely moot. Nobody cares, including me.

We're talking about whether Trump is a racist or not. Let's keep focus on the argument here, because you're all over the place.

You apparently do not think Trump discriminating based upon the judge's ethnicity is racism, you labeled it "nationalism" (lol). Meanwhile, I think it fits the exact definition of racism. I don't think this issue is at all nuanced, so one of us is right, and the other a looney toon who should probably stop spamming this thread with terrible posts and go take a walk or something.

I love how this is laughable. If I moved to Japan and the Japanese suggested my children might have a partiality to America would that be racist? Dude nationalism is not some trait unique to Mexicans. You're such a racist for thinking that's what I meant!
06-03-2016 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Aksdal
welcome back!
You're a racist.
06-03-2016 , 01:22 AM
:O
06-03-2016 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
No, you're absolutely wrong. Suggesting bias in someone can be incorrect but not racist. It would only be racist if he somehow thinks his own race is beyond any potential bias and it can only occur in "lesser" races. And there is no evidence he thinks that way. Furthermore White people are constantly accused of this type of bias without the "omg racist!" reprisal.

How many times have I been reported? lol? I've never reported anyone in 2+2 in my life for anything, god libs are such babies.
Your argument is far too stupid to merit defeating so I'll just stick to saying that if your redefine words to say whatever you want them to then you'll tend to be less compelling than you hope.

I can't remember whether you've been reported but it's about even between left and right atm for post reports.


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Originally Posted by Aksdal
welcome back!
I haven't really been anywhere and I'm not staying. Just looked in after a post report and might run a game or two before I disappear again.


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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
In your (incorrect) opinion.
The notion that lefties unfairly accuse people like you of racism or desire to create conflict by seeing what isn't there really implies that racism is not a bad thing, which is racist in itself, or simply redefines "racism" suit again. You don't get to define it, sorry.
06-03-2016 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
So I don't think we've done it in here yet. I guess this forum isn't ******ed enough for this discussion. But can we talk about the gorilla? lolz
the gorilla story is wonderful

every left wing idiot on twitter and many left wing media sites called the zoo racist for killing the gorilla. because america doesn't care about black children at all but was willing to kill a gorilla (which has the convenient racist undertones) in order to save a white child whose parents were totally irresponsible for not watching him

then they figured out the child who fell into the enclosure was actually black, and now it became racist to criticize the parents

isn't it amazing
06-03-2016 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I love how this is laughable. If I moved to Japan and the Japanese suggested my children might have a partiality to America would that be racist?
Yes.

Glad we cleared that one up.

I mean, the thing is, assuming something about a person based purely on their ethnicity is racism tout court. It doesn't really matter that you think it's a good quality (such as for instance whether a person has rhythm or is a dynamic lover or whatever).
06-03-2016 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
The notion that lefties unfairly accuse people like you of racism or desire to create conflict by seeing what isn't there really implies that racism is not a bad thing, which is racist in itself, or simply redefines "racism" suit again. You don't get to define it, sorry.

LOL!! NO! You have this so backwards, it's more that the reason this word has so much power is because we DO NOT live in a racist society, if we did, being a racist, would not be a big deal.

How am I implying that racism is not a bad thing by getting angry/irritated about being constantly called one. Do you actually think this way? Holy ****, I don't even know what to say. You're thinking is so messed up it's beyond help
06-03-2016 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
You can't disagree with his logic without assuming racism on his part because his "logic" is racist.

If this is the standard of debate atm, no wonder the post reports have been flying.

BTW, can we please stop reporting each other for trolling and the like? This is the politics thread. Disagreeing robustly is part of the "fun".
people who report posts in the politics thread should be deported
06-03-2016 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
people who report posts in the politics thread should be deported
06-03-2016 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Yes.

Glad we cleared that one up.

I mean, the thing is, assuming something about a person based purely on their ethnicity is racism tout court. It doesn't really matter that you think it's a good quality (such as for instance whether a person has rhythm or is a dynamic lover or whatever).

I have to give you props for openly admitting something this stupid. Most SJWs don't want to type this out because they know how ridiculous it looks.

Here in the real world... most of us realize that while assuming generalisations to be a true of any individual 100% of the time is foolish, recognising that they exist over broad groups is just... well.. living in reality.

      
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