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Hm. Deregulation leads to less competition sometimes.

I'm not sure if I should give examples. Just in case though:

We prevent backroom price collusion.

Requiring proper labeling of products and truthful advertisement leads to more informed choices and competition on the grounds of product quality and price.

Banning the preexisting conditions clause in health insurance forces companies to pay more attention to reasonable paths of profit and leads to more meaningful competition instead of tricking people into a bad bet.

IP laws incentivize R&D and more competition in the sense that there are more sorts of technologies out there leading to more choice, even though if you go too far it has the opposite affect.

And then there's tariffs because sometimes you don't want multinational conglomerates to come in and mess up your free markets.

I'm not sure how these examples of regulation prove deregulation improves competition.

Competition is not a good in itself in economic theory. The outcomes of competition are. If one can achieve the outcomes of competition in other ways, that's effectively as good.

But you are worshipping an idol rather than theorising, so please do carry on.

06-25-2017 , 07:50 AM

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from each according to his ability seems clearly to be authoritarian vs libertarian

i said disagree aka the lib side

If the state removes barriers to your doing what you are able, is that "authoritarian" or "liberal"? Or is it both?

The state may be authoritarian in how it prevents others from stopping you, or compels others to allow you the freedom and space to do what you're able, but you yourself are obviously freer.

This is why "authoritarian vs libertarian" is a very poor choice of "axis" btw and not just because a Stalinist is not a "libertarian" in anyone's ideology except their own possibly.

06-25-2017 , 08:41 AM

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http://time.com/4828306/russian-hack...-private-data/

The question now is why the Democratic establishment is so adamant that this massive campaign to rig the election didn't have any effect.

06-25-2017 , 09:33 AM

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I don't expect perfection from our human beings who we hire as police officers.

What room is there for someone who is getting pulled over by a police officer to not be perfect, iyo?

06-25-2017 , 09:59 AM

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California democrats killing single payer bill yesterday even though they have a super-majority.

reformism.jpg

06-25-2017 , 10:01 AM

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Purity trolling liberals isn't going to change the world.

Who hurt you, MB?

06-25-2017 , 10:38 AM

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And of course, IANAWW would not mistreat a black, would not be openly prejudicial, and would certainly not consider himself a racist. But here he is, by his framing and language, endorsing a notion that is about as deeply racist as you can deploy: blacks are inherently dangerous.

how in the world did you get any of this from what I've said on the subject?

maybe you're confusing mine w/ Myro's position?

06-25-2017 , 10:57 AM

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i was sort of trying to bait thebirdman but i mostly agree

from each according to his ability can be read in different ways i suppose. I was interpreting it in a relatively sinister manner, more slave like

06-25-2017 , 01:11 PM

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A self-imposed exile from all threads on 2+2 not related to werewolf begins immediately upon making this post, and I shall return on or after August 4, 2017.

06-25-2017 , 01:12 PM

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lulz

06-25-2017 , 01:58 PM

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A self-imposed exile from all threads on 2+2 not related to werewolf begins immediately upon making this post, and I shall return on or after August 4, 2017.

Under obv

06-25-2017 , 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

I'm not sure how these examples of regulation prove deregulation improves competition.

I'm trying to show the opposite. regulation is necessary and useful.

Quote:

Competition is not a good in itself in economic theory. The outcomes of competition are. If one can achieve the outcomes of competition in other ways, that's effectively as good.

i think i've said this before, or something similar. that it was a deeper topic.

though i must admit, i do think of competition in the loosest sense, as associated with iteration. it doesn't always have to be market competition.

cooperation is good too, but humans aren't perfect.

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But you are worshipping an idol rather than theorising, so please do carry on.

???

06-25-2017 , 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

how in the world did you get any of this from what I've said on the subject?

maybe you're confusing mine w/ Myro's position?

that's not my position either.

i merely said that to a cop in america that's how they're trained to think.

and that they probably are more dangerous - statistically - but that's because of socioeconomic status and a criminal environment.

06-25-2017 , 02:24 PM

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i guess i'm taking objection to the 'inherent' part.

06-25-2017 , 05:56 PM

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when I say he was a monster
when I set fire to his name
it does not matter where you hear it from
whether truth or lies, it gets heard all the same

whatever's on the table plays

06-26-2017 , 07:42 AM

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back at 5/10 tonight. i won 2500

utg has 140 in his stack. he opens $40. mp pro has KK and makes it 160. i call otb. utg calls all in. me and pro have 1500 effective

flop is 976r, and pro checks. my friend who is a very good says this is a great check. i thought it was a terrible check. what do you guys think?

06-26-2017 , 07:58 AM

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I think I wouldn't call too many threebets cold.

Is it a demonstration of capitalism in action?

06-26-2017 , 08:16 AM

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A self-imposed exile from all threads on 2+2 not related to werewolf begins immediately upon making this post, and I shall return on or after August 4, 2017.

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Originally Posted by master3004

Under obv

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

Planned Parenthood wasting money as well as they waste the lives of innocent babies, I see--and in similar numbers (dollars=babies).

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

Best line ever, and this from no conservative:

--Maureen Dowd

What do I win?

06-26-2017 , 08:21 AM

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Considering the bottom two posts were made 9 hours prior to that top one, I'm gonna go with......nothing.

06-26-2017 , 08:24 AM

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Awwww nuts. My bad.

I will leave this terrible post up in penance.

06-26-2017 , 08:27 AM

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I think the check is fine. Only other line I see as reasonable is bet-folding

06-26-2017 , 08:53 AM

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oops sorry wrong thread

06-26-2017 , 09:39 AM

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Awwww nuts. My bad.

I will leave this terrible post up in penance.

Don't worry about it

Bending things to fit your truth is a trait not unlike our president

:P

06-26-2017 , 10:44 AM

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oops sorry wrong thread

you post in other threads?

06-26-2017 , 11:35 AM

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what's r?

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