POG Philosophy and Religion thread

[valenzuela]

Originally Posted by amplify

oh come on. so buddhism fails because it says that Buddha walked on water, created a golden bridge in the air with his mind, and knew intimately the details of all his millions of reincarnations?

Jesus said he was the son of God, buddha said please dont venerate me.
I also think christianity is evil and makes people suffer and it certainly fails at providing a good ethical system, jesus otoh is awesome he would be devastated if he saw the bull**** that his cult turned into.

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by well named

I'm pretty sure by that criterion everything fails

not metaphysical naturalism

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by riverfish1

i'm pretty sure christianity fails because it requires a leap of faith that some people are unwilling or unable to take.

Christianity doesn't try to compromise to real life. It asserts that these are thew way things are because God said so, and thats it. It doesn't care if you say it doesn't make sense, if you say its too complicated or unfair. It says "religion is God, God is religion, and here is the religion, take it or leave it."

[valenzuela]

Also I think there is no clear line at considering urself a buddhist or not, unlike christainism. Im not sure if I qualify as a buddhist or not, I dont really care, I think an atheist with buddhist leanings describes me better but that is just a label and not really important.

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by valenzuela

Also I think there is no clear line at considering urself a buddhist or not, unlike christainism. Im not sure if I qualify as a buddhist or not, I dont really care, I think an atheist with buddhist leanings describes me better but that is just a label and not really important.

Buddhism/Taoism describe ways of living as well as a religion. You can live like a busshist or a taoist and not have any explicit belief. They are less religions that christianity.

[Luckbox Inc]

religion doesn't have to equate with belief

and buddhism is certainly a lot more than just prescribing ways of living anyways

and it certainly has a much larger cannon than christianity

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

and it certainly has a much larger cannon than christianity

what makes you think this? I think this is just patently false.

[Luckbox Inc]

idk. i just do.

i googled 'religions by canon size' but shockingly no one has taken the time to post that information on the net

i do think that there are a lot more books and writings that are deemed important in buhhism compared to christianity though

[lsc1022]

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

idk. i just do.

i googled 'religions by canon size' but shockingly no one has taken the time to post that information on the net

i do think that there are a lot more books and writings that are deemed important in buhhism compared to christianity though

This doesn't seem like it should be true to me, a number of the medieval Christians (Augustine and Aquinas in particular come to mind) were rather prolific. Anyone who doesn't consider them important for Christianity are doing it wrong imo.

[Birdman10687]

I think the bible alone is bigger than any religious texts you will find in the buddhist religion.

[metsandfinsfan]

Originally Posted by valenzuela

Jesus said he was the son of God, buddha said please dont venerate me.
I also think christianity is evil and makes people suffer and it certainly fails at providing a good ethical system, jesus otoh is awesome he would be devastated if he saw the bull**** that his cult turned into.

when did jesus say he was the son of god? And dont say at the ressurection

[well named]

Matthew 16:16-17?

also in before "prove he said it" but I'm answering this question as "when in the bible did Jesus say he was the son of God" not as "prove that Jesus existed or said anything or that it wasn't rewritten.." etc etc

15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"

16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

when did jesus say he was the son of god? And dont say at the ressurection

he said it about 1000 times in the new testament.

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by well named

Matthew 16:16-17?

also in before "prove he said it" but I'm answering this on the level of "when in the bible did Jesus say he was the son of God" not provide strong evidence that anything in the bible was actually said.

The bible comes out and calls jesus the son of god several times. I also think Jesus himself says it explicitly a few times. It is also implied many many time throughout the bible.

[well named]

you may feel free to augment my quotage, it wasn't intended to be definitive, just my off-the-top-of-my-head answer