POG Philosophy and Religion thread

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by amplify

Is this not Utilitarianism?

No.

Originally Posted by lsc1022

You're an ethical egoist and you think deontology is short-sighted? Here's an atlas shrug for you.

Deontology and objectivism aren't the same thing. Far from it in fact.

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

No.

A good post would explain to me what the difference is. As I understand it Utilitarianism seeks the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people. What you proposed I guess was the greatest happiness for yourself. Is that the only difference?

[WinEvryRacex]

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

i agree, i actually wrote a paper about this. Utilitarian is impractical. Kantian is short sighted.

utilitarianism doesn't have to be followed to the letter, just because increasing overall happiness may be the most "ethical" thing to do, doesn't mean you have to do it. I think being mostly utilitarian but being allowed room for selfishness is the way to go.

Before taking philosophy classes I came up with something very similar to utilitarianism myself, so that's what I believe in.

Nietzche's and especially kant's philosophies sounded terrible to me.

[WinEvryRacex]

Originally Posted by amplify

A good post would explain to me what the difference is. As I understand it Utilitarianism seeks the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people. What you proposed I guess was the greatest happiness for yourself. Is that the only difference?

sounds like nietzche. hopefully im not forgetting my philosophies already.

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Epicurean

Wiki says

Epicurus believed that the greatest good was to seek modest pleasures in order to attain a state of tranquility and freedom from fear (ataraxia) as well as absence of bodily pain (aponia) through knowledge of the workings of the world and the limits of our desires.

I can find nothing to argue with here.

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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex

Nietzche's and especially kant's philosophies sounded terrible to me.

What was Nietzsche's philosophy?

[clowntable]

Philosophy: We need waaaay more threads, waaaaay more. POG Sports&Workout etc.

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Originally Posted by clowntable

Philosophy: We need waaaay more threads, waaaaay more. POG Sports&Workout etc.

so true

pog love advice thread
pog job advice thread
pog does this look infected to you thread

etc

[WinEvryRacex]

Originally Posted by amplify

What was Nietzsche's philosophy?

warriors used to kick all sorts of ass,
the pathetic little people got tired of this and overthrew them

so emerged the "priestly" philosophy where selflessness was encouraged, but that's all a bunch of bull**** that makes him sick. Cruelty, selfishness, and complete disregard for others is the way to go. Cruelty is pretty cool cause you impose your will on others.

That's what I remember anyway. Im sure there's more, i'll wiki it.

[clowntable]

Philosophy: Plato is the root of all evil

[clowntable]

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

anyone want to discuss kantian versus utilitarian ethics?

I'd argue liberal ethics vs all random ethics

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by amplify

A good post would explain to me what the difference is. As I understand it Utilitarianism seeks the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people. What you proposed I guess was the greatest happiness for yourself. Is that the only difference?

Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex

utilitarianism doesn't have to be followed to the letter, just because increasing overall happiness may be the most "ethical" thing to do, doesn't mean you have to do it. I think being mostly utilitarian but being allowed room for selfishness is the way to go.

Before taking philosophy classes I came up with something very similar to utilitarianism myself, so that's what I believe in.

Nietzche's and especially kant's philosophies sounded terrible to me.

Yeah, well, my biggest thing with utilitarianism is its not feasible. Its all well and good to seek the most happiness for the greatest number of people--but not person can make a decision like that with the information they have. In theory, I think utilitarianism is the correct theory, but it would never work. Therefore I think you just have to strive for the most personal happiness possible.

[Birdman10687]

Originally Posted by amplify

so true

pog love advice thread
pog job advice thread
pog does this look infected to you thread

etc

We should have a POG thread where we talk about poker advice and stuff.

[Zurvan]

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

We should have a POG thread where we talk about poker advice and stuff.

I can't decide if this is a level, or if you really don't know about the POG poker thread

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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex

warriors used to kick all sorts of ass,
the pathetic little people got tired of this and overthrew them

so emerged the "priestly" philosophy where selflessness was encouraged, but that's all a bunch of bull**** that makes him sick. Cruelty, selfishness, and complete disregard for others is the way to go. Cruelty is pretty cool cause you impose your will on others.

Nietzsche's last act as a rational human being was to throw himself on a horse to stop it being whipped. This does not seem the action of a selfish cruel person.