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Old 08-03-2008, 09:40 PM   #3361
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I think your brother should have tried to figure out whose it was.

I would expect such customer service from a restaurant.
I agree.

One of his fellow managers has a $2000 projector that was left behind after some meeting/event there. OMG
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:41 PM   #3362
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I'd return the phone, not the cash.

ofc, the restaurant should have returned the phone. Odds are good the guy was a ****ty tipper.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:43 PM   #3363
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meh.. to me the golden rule is "treat other's how you expect to be treated."
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:44 PM   #3364
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OK, see, if all humans everywhere were of the highest values and morals, you'd be right.

But it doesn't quite work that way.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:44 PM   #3365
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And it's quite possible that was a joke and I'm an idiot.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:47 PM   #3366
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I work at a casino. We have stuff left here all the time.

We do our best to track down the owner if possible.

Wallets, Cell Phones, etc.

Glasses get donated to the Lions after a certain time.

It is just the right thing to do.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #3367
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So. Here is another ethics question.

My brother is the assistant manager at a restaurant here in Phoenix and I live with him now. So he tells me about this $400 PDA phone that has been in the lost and found there for two weeks. He was planning on giving it to the secretary there but I told him that I wanted it so he gave it to me instead.

The batteries were totally dead so I went to a phone store and bought a charger and called sprint and had it activated to my number.

But this guy had his whole address book on the phone. I easily could have found out who he was and gotten him his phone back (I didn't)

My rationale here is that he probably had insurance so its no real loss to him and after 2 weeks he certainly has another phone by now. Meanwhile, my old phone sucked badly and was already a hand-me-down.

What I'm most surprised about was how easy it was activating it. I figure it would have at least been reported as lost and I might have trouble with that, but not at all.

Does anybody get a hold of this guy and get him his phone. I still have his email I think. I'm not going to do it. It cost me $20 just to get a charger. I'm just curious to know who is super-honest-ethical here in pog. I'm not.
i know with verizon if you report it lost, it can never ever be activated by anyone but you
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #3368
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you guys also ought to check out Metallica with the San Francisco Symphony. I think it's on DVD.
have it, A+
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #3369
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but finding money ... money is replacable

finders keepers imo
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:50 PM   #3370
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Interestingly enough under a Kantian deontological system of ethics I think you can justify keeping the phone, since the rule is generalizable, but under a Utilitarian framework you should return it if you expect that doing so maximizes the well-being of those involved.

Even in deontology while keeping the phone may be justifiable returning it is probably better.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:50 PM   #3371
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two weeks is a pretty good wait time on the phone imo too

i went through situations like this when i was a retail manager
and i did it on a case by case basis
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:51 PM   #3372
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i dont think it was a joke. its right in line with what he said earlier.

im fine with it actually. although you should probably strive for a little better than you expect
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:53 PM   #3373
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I have always been Utilitarian in nature.

The greater good and all that stuff.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:55 PM   #3374
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i'm all for the greater good...













































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Old 08-03-2008, 10:00 PM   #3375
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Bucky,

You creep me out.

Seriously.
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