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Finished with d1, earlier list didn't change

xkf's day was disastrous from an effen theorem perspective, regardless from how suboptimal his wagon hopping to and fro would have been

meh

till tomorrow when the bullets start flying, I suppose

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01-22-2017 , 01:43 AM

#2378

KruZe

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if well named survives the rest of the day, i think we lynch him and don't rely on the doctor not being a wolf (i need to read up on the doctor role not sure if him being healed is day or night thing or if its revealed itt) im going to sleep will do tomorrow

(go packers, ill probably be absent during the entire game, will be back after game though)

so my vote will be on well named unless he dies before EOD

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01-22-2017 , 01:50 AM

#2379

Montecore

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Kruze,

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Town Doctor
Every night, starting night 1, you may heal one critically wounded player (not yourself).
You will take half of that player's money, rounded up.

Night action

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01-22-2017 , 01:51 AM

#2380

KruZe

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Originally Posted by Montecore

Kruze,

Night action

thanks, yeah i think we have to lynch him to make sure, not like village is in rough shape where we need to lynch a wolf that isn't well named and hope he is killed without doctor help

may also be a decent time for the doctor to claim if they are a villager tbh...

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01-22-2017 , 01:55 AM

#2381

Montecore

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There's a decent chance the gunsmith is a wolf, and the doctor being a wolf too would be a ridiculous rand

Combinatorially I think it's right to lynch someone else in the POE and hope the wn kill goes through

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01-22-2017 , 01:56 AM

#2382

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Originally Posted by KruZe

No, this would be potentially a substantial waste of kp and we also learn if the doctor is a wolf by seeing if he is healed.

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01-22-2017 , 01:57 AM

#2383

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Originally Posted by KruZe

Why would we have to "make sure"?

I don't get what the benefit would be to lynching him today.

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01-22-2017 , 02:00 AM

#2384

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The doctor should absolutely not be claiming if they are a villager, only the wolves benefit from that being out in the open right now.

If they are a wolf they should feel free to claim

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01-22-2017 , 02:02 AM

#2385

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Originally Posted by Lissa2

No, this would be potentially a substantial waste of kp and we also learn if the doctor is a wolf by seeing if he is healed.

substantial is a pretty exaggerated word in this case...

i mean whatever i don't REALLY care all that much, I just feel with how we are running, just lynch who we all think the wolf is (well named) and if the doctor is a villager have the villager claim that... if a villager claims doctor, sure kill someone else... but i have a feeling well named could be the doctor and heal himself... then we will have another day of parking a vote on an outed wolf.

get it over with and lynch him before he can heal himself if a villager doctor doesn't claim.

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Originally Posted by Lissa2

Why would we have to "make sure"?

I don't get what the benefit would be to lynching him today.

the benefit is not getting stuck with another dead day of piled on votes of an outed wolf all day

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01-22-2017 , 02:02 AM

#2386

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it's not like we can't lynch him tomorrow if we have to

and the roleblocker is dead

and he can't buy or earn anything right now

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01-22-2017 , 02:04 AM

#2387

Lissa2

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Originally Posted by KruZe

Doctor can't self heal.

I mean, I'm not saying having another day of having to lynch him is GOOD but it seems far better than essentially throwing away a vig shot.

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01-22-2017 , 02:04 AM

#2388

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Originally Posted by Lissa2

The doctor should absolutely not be claiming if they are a villager, only the wolves benefit from that being out in the open right now.

If they are a wolf they should feel free to claim

agree to disagree... with how many wolves are dead we are in a strong position to trade kills (if the wolves number one villa target is the doctor that is)

is the wolves number one kill the doctor right now?

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01-22-2017 , 02:05 AM

#2389

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And we could shoot him tomorrow too

I've had the same worry that wn is the doctor, hence why he's not too concerned about bothering to attempt to appeal for healing, but whatever

Kill one of the five other people in the POE, since we'll have to anyway, and if we have to drop some more lead on wn's face tomorrow, then oh well

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01-22-2017 , 02:06 AM

#2390

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Originally Posted by Lissa2

Doctor can't self heal.

I mean, I'm not saying having another day of having to lynch him is GOOD but it seems far better than essentially throwing away a vig shot.

Oh yeah, derp

Bed time soon

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01-22-2017 , 02:07 AM

#2391

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Originally Posted by KruZe

I'd guess they probably need to kill clear villagers and not worry about roles

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01-22-2017 , 02:07 AM

#2392

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Originally Posted by KruZe

I don't think they have any real space to hunt the villa doctor if not outed, but if villa and outed I would think they jump to a priority kill because them dying essentially doubles the hitrate of any shots the wolves buy.

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01-22-2017 , 02:07 AM

#2393

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anyways, like i said not a big deal, take my thoughts with a grain of salt on this issue, i just feel killing who we all seem to strongly think is a wolf is best, get it out of the way, move onto the next target, don't rely on the wolves not being a doctor.

guess beck novo or whoever else is a wagon will be posting to defend themselves tomorrow. im out cya soon

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01-22-2017 , 02:13 AM

#2394

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xkf

Was thinking about this earlier re: leaving wn alive or lynching.

If the doctor is a wolf, it's basically suicide to heal wn because he'd have to claim a green role and would be easily POEable in most cases.

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01-22-2017 , 02:14 AM

#2395

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Or the 1/3rd chance it's wn himself, yea

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01-22-2017 , 02:22 AM

#2396

Montecore

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Originally Posted by insanity31

So many people can eat a bullet tomorrow

Looking forward to binking and then buying a gun

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01-22-2017 , 09:15 AM

#2397

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Originally Posted by KruZe

Yes, I think it would be. Trading the doctor who can be a big help to the village in the coming days for a wolf makes no sense.

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01-22-2017 , 09:29 AM

#2398

lilrascal

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Originally Posted by Montecore

More for me than anyone else:

People I'm not voting/shooting and am confident are villagers
Lissa (peeked v)
xander
Kruze
Roman

People I'm probably not voting/shooting and am reasonably confident are villagers
irtm
insanitaids
AiB

Eh, I still kind of think the bigger nk was a seer hunt but he's been hot useless AIDS otherwise
Rascal

The rest
Duck
beck
xkf
mexi

dead man walking assuming the doc isn't a wolf
well named

I don't understand why you confident that kruze is a villager. I just ISO'd him and it doesn't give me any confidence that he's a villager. He stays in the middle and casts a lot of shade around. The only thing I really see going for him is his supposed shot on gamer, but we don't know if that was real or not and a wolf could have made that shot too since gamer was getting lynched either way.

His ISO doesn't scream wolf, but with his casting shade and recent push of bad logic regarding the doc it leans slightly rand wolf rather than confident he's a villager.

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01-22-2017 , 09:51 AM

#2399

lilrascal

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Just ISO'd xkf. He looked good at the beginning of the game, but then fell off at EOD1 and was kind of all over the place without any supporting logic. He was very defensive D2 in a weird non-villagery way. He tries to make an effort to save gamer yesterday by pushing WN a bit, but it may be just trying to save a more powerful wolf and give up a lesser one.