Lord of the Rings 2 - Game Thread

[iamnotawerewolf]

Sup thread? Lunch-posting from school right now, so I will be behind for a while. For reference, I am writing this post from the bottom of page 2.

Here are my catchup thoughts thus far:


50 post limit is wolf-friendly because it gives them an excuse not to participate as much as otherwise. I think people carelessly burning through their limit should be the initial suspects.

Originally Posted by Larry Legend

Aaronk, Jack, krazy

Masonic villa leans

Gad

Overanalyzing underperforming wolf lean

I don't think wolf Larry would tunnel on villager Gad this early.

Is a D1 bus like this in Larry's range?

Originally Posted by jonnyd

krayz

wtf is this? no reasoning, no quotes... naked votes are wolfie imo

Originally Posted by Larry Legend

anarchist

It's about time he gets lynched on d1 again imo

The Anarchist wagon is sketchy. The only reasons I have seen are - "last game he said 'lynch me next time if I'm lying' as a wolf" and "he lives too long as a wolf". Neither of these make him a wolf this game. The village should be trying to find/lynch wolves, not acting out of spite/grudgery.

Originally Posted by J.D.

signal wtf.

Would it be safe for us to assume that the wolves can't communicate right away (seems to be the trend in recent MMs)?

How would this assumption help the village if right? Harm the village if wrong?

Originally Posted by well named

ok so I have a guaranteed villager read on JD now

this isn't a peek since it's not a poem

unless it's free verse

berma shave?

no n0 actions... I do think this is +v for WN, though, because I don't think a wolf would use language as strong as "guaranteed" this early.


I'll post again from the bottom of page 3.

[monikrazy]

this is my 20th post!

votes on loretta are misguided, and from fairly strong players to boot, so i think collectively this group is taking the thread in the wrong direction

i do get the feeling wolves are keeping a fairly low profile right now, still need to hear more from some players before i am ready to push anyone strongly but i am thinking of drumming up some serious friction and interactions

30 posts limit could be a problem if i got that route though


alice! why am i not able to clear you yet

[XXsooted]

Originally Posted by essedarius

did you just trap yourself as a wolf?

discrediting my list and then not wanting to get to any specifics when I ask what you want to know about it, makes me think that you want to be anti-spewy and you didn't really care about the list in the first place, but only wanted to make me look bad

do not like this

probably not a good idea considering that I won't really have that much time for this game, especially after today it will be harder for me

but I see that you started reading on your own so that's good

and actually villagery, because if you were a wolf then I think you might have just coasted at least for a little while after saying you would

or this

[XXsooted]

Loretta votes are so guided

[essedarius]

Originally Posted by XXsooted

do not like this




or this

could you explain why please?

[XXsooted]

b/c I think you're making way too much out of bigger's comment and bigger's comment fits well into how I view him as a villager.

You are giving villager points to WN for reasoning which I disagree with.

[alice16]

few notes from my phone skimming earlier:

re: thingy -

i dont think what thingy did was villagery, mostly bc i place an almost zero chance of it being possible that someone forgets that they've opened a role pm an hour earlier. therefore, i find it odd that so many people are saying "..well, it's villagery, bc you'd only forget your role if it was a villager role" - - like completely bypassing the likelihood that you forget ANY role pm so quickly (unlikely imo)

i felt like thingy said something stupid in his opener (forgot i was in the game), and then when pressed on it, had to admit something even more stupid (i read the role pm before, but forgot about it). in his defense: his quick post today felt a little more natural (kinda angry, kinda eyerollish). BUT:

i think he's still creepy by way of the people who quickly defended/excused him. namely filthy.

filthy had a weird post about first finding thingy villa, then neutral. all before getting ot the post where thingy admits to reading hte pm first. then after that post, finds him more villagery, under the "you would only forget your pm if you're vanilla" theory. which is such a ****ed up theory to me

Q: do people really think it's possible to forget that you read a role pm?


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re: krayz

agree w/ a recent post from gad about this "signal chasing" getting out of line, and how fundamentally, the signal would be larry's anyway.

i already posted about this last night, but if you reread exactly what happened, i dont think it looks any more creepy for krayz than it does for LL. (yes, i think the "question mark" plays here).

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re: jack -

to whoever said jack's posting style is wolfy (bigger or rw): yes yes yes.

again, why are ppl giving village points to something like that? doesn't anyone remember when whitegoose did something very similar, and was cleared for it (as villa). then reproduced it effortlessly as wolf? it's a deceptively easy posting style

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re: loretta -

agree w/ sooted still on loretta. the interaction between her and CQ about "i dont respond a certain way to pressure" was interesting. or i thought so since:

+ i asked point blank last night "how does loretta respond to pressure?"
+ CQ had a point blank post about "why bother pressing her if she doesn't respond to pressure?"
+ loretta only responded to him and to say basically "i dont have a standard response"


also: lol at gabe's lost wolf. that's my favorite part of this game so far

and: aaronk: do you still vyk is wolfy?

[well named]

Instead of going by page, I present ye random smattering of multiquotes, since that's going to be all the rage given the post restrictions, and some notes:

Originally Posted by XXsooted

wagon loretta with me? you can always change later

The "you can always change later" is worth a wolf point for sooted imo.

Originally Posted by ibavly

I'm mostly just skimming the thread looking for people using my name

ibav. I saw someone else already said this after I grabbed this to multiquote, but ibav's goofy list is standard for him

Originally Posted by Palo

Anyways, my question about the no n0 actions was meant as both an honest question and to remind people that it was stated there are no n0 actions.

Palo seems really wolfy to me but I'm hesitant a little given that he got mislynched recently. I'd like to hear more specific comparisons to that game from people who played with him

Originally Posted by monikrazy

ok iv been doing some rereading and i think globe might just have that d1 tunnel syndrome when you start posting to early and continue posting and you think you are adding value to the thread but you really aren't, and it can actually get annoying enough to make people want to vote you

its possible i fell into that later category and maybe globe wasn't being intrinsically wolfy

i think the questions were pretty meh, tone is a little stilted and posts are on the shorter side - all cautionary signs for me

also, if globe is a wolf im likely to be much more confident in my opinion a day or two down the road

I really hate monik's posts where he backtracks on globe. It just feels like the kind of continuity in thinking that happens when a wolf re-reads and wants to post his "new" reads but not break continuity with what he said before. Whereas villagers just throw it out there.

Originally Posted by Duckburg

Pyro need to jump out of his commentary mode

I totally agree with this, which may be a first for me and duck :P

Originally Posted by officedog

Just logged in. Let me get caught up. Had to comment on this:

FFS, Anarchist, does everything you post sound wolfy to me anymore?

another officedog post I don't like. Specifically, if this post ended with her calling anarchist a wolf, that would be good. But the soft accusation is not good, especially for OD I think

[alice16]

Originally Posted by essedarius

what is he talking about?

well i dont think bigger wanted to elaborate yet, so i wasn't going to spell it out.

but he only has a couple posts in the game, and one of them i found creepy.

(i guess it doens't matter now: but his language in one of them felt like a contrived setup for the future)

[essedarius]

Originally Posted by XXsooted

b/c I think you're making way too much out of bigger's comment and bigger's comment fits well into how I view him as a villager.

You are giving villager points to WN for reasoning which I disagree with.

so what are your reads on them? villa lean on bigger and ???

[Loretta8]

Originally Posted by monikrazy

this is my 20th post!

votes on loretta are misguided, and from fairly strong players to boot, so i think collectively this group is taking the thread in the wrong direction

thank you, the reasoning given for voting me has been so bizarre and illogical i feel like i am being leveled.

did a reread of kowboys, a guy many are calling villagery for some reason

Originally Posted by kowboys4

first omg

Originally Posted by kowboys4

bout time.

Originally Posted by kowboys4

50 post limit means I can't post like crazy right now.

Originally Posted by kowboys4

This one always cracks me up.

four straight fluff posts to start out, including a useless picture post right after he said he had to conserve his posting

Originally Posted by kowboys4

Just to throw this out there at the beginning of the game so we don't have to talk about it at the end of the game. There are most certainly 9 - 13 wolves in this game and I would venture to say that number will probably be in the 10 - 12 range.

Prediction #1 (So I can look back and see how many of these are right post game)

a few people have called this wolfy and i agree, really no reason to speculate and an easy thing for wolves to talk about

Originally Posted by kowboys4

Larry Legend, bad reads and being a douche already.

being a douche is not a good reason to vote someone

Originally Posted by kowboys4

villager team includes:
Kowboys
J.D.
Krayz
Monikrazy
JackoNeill
CrackedQuads
Gadarene


Easy game.

and thats it from him so far

overall, a pretty poor entrance imo, wolf lean

[Loretta8]

Originally Posted by alice16

re: loretta -

agree w/ sooted still on loretta. the interaction between her and CQ about "i dont respond a certain way to pressure" was interesting. or i thought so since:

+ i asked point blank last night "how does loretta respond to pressure?"
+ CQ had a point blank post about "why bother pressing her if she doesn't respond to pressure?"
+ loretta only responded to him and to say basically "i dont have a standard response"

this makes absolutely no sense

[essedarius]

Originally Posted by alice16

well i dont think bigger wanted to elaborate yet, so i wasn't going to spell it out.

but he only has a couple posts in the game, and one of them i found creepy.

(i guess it doens't matter now: but his language in one of them felt like a contrived setup for the future)

yeah, but the thing is I can list multiple people who fit the same category so I want to know why bigger thinks berksonz is special

I'm calling zsjostrom a wolf for same reasons, but especially because I've seen him as a good self-clearing villager

can you 2 say the same for berksonz?

[XXsooted]

Originally Posted by essedarius

so what are your reads on them? villa lean on bigger and ???

I don't really have a villa lean on bigger, was just saying that the post you were reacting to wasn't really deserving of reaction

leaning wolf on WN

[Loretta8]

Originally Posted by alice16

Q: do people really think it's possible to forget that you read a role pm?

yes, its possible