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10-16-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Cory - I think you should perhaps take a break from the game. The reason I say that is that people sometime step over the line verbally in werewolf. The correct way to deal with that is to complain to the mod during the game and/or make a complaint to a forum moderator in exceptionally bad circumstance during or after the game.
Being accused of a being a wolf, however badly, is part of being a villager. Being mislynched is part of being a villager.
It is not acceptable to auto-rage vote someone at must-lynch without at least considering the idea that might lose the village the game. You have a duty of care to respect other players stake in the game. Whilst your rage-play only ensured the village lost and in a very important sense you are in no way totally responsible for us losing - most, if not all of the village, could have played alot better: your play is fundamentally unfair for your fellow villagers.

Were they insane thinking you were not clear? No. However, you were a bad lynch. But that means when confronted with this possibility you need to find a way to convince them not to lynch you. If you get upset by a player, call them out , rage at them yourself but do not auto vote them.

Take a timeout from werewolf - talk perhaps to a long-time player who did not play in the game about what happened AND most importantly listened to what they have to say. I think I say for all of the players - that apart from the rage-vote we would love you to be a permanent feature of ww games.
I'm not going to lie - the only game I remember from you besides this was a mishmash were you a villager in and retaliation shot a ~clear villager in ITAs because he shot at you and were blasted post-game for it

But that was a long time ago I think so you seem to have reached past my level of maturity

I appreciate the thought and I will keep this in mind
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10-16-2014 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Zdye: why the redd peek?
1) He was so bad - I would expect that if he was wolf PR he would not have been a wagon two days in a row, I do not think he would not vote to save himself day 2.
2) My nightkill - where I was pretty polarised to seer or vanilla from wolves POV - thus shc him.

My inclination would have been to peek into the unknowns

Monte, Gamer, QQ, Baudib - any one of those would have made alot more sense.

TTT
I think the balance was close to right - I think a full affiliation seer would have been right. The best side obviously won - but I think you would agree 7/3 as ML - with a live seer having only really 2 peeks + abit on day 4 - is not what you envisioned.
If you are worried about giving too much info to the village - maybe randomise to village n0 or even take n0 away??
My view is full affliation was right way to go.

Thanks for the game.
Thanks for answering my PMs during post game.


For the record upon my death: TTT asked for my guesses at the point of death for the wolfpack.
My PM read:
Blondy
Mor
qq
gamer

outside chance
baudib/zdye

I mean my thoughts are summarised in the thread.

Good luck if redd is a wolf.

Digger it may not be out in the open and evident but I'm constantly working on my game. I'm constantly rereading old games and trying to soul reads wolves etc etc

Even games I'm not in I'll take the player list and enter then in random. org, I'll put all the names in a hat and draw out of it, I'll throw darts at the dartboard, I'm asking the online magic 8 ball if player x is a wolf etc etc, I'll randomly pick a player and try to envision how they'd react if I just called them a wolf and tunneled them relentlessly.

So rest assured I'm still doing the things that got me to be considered the GOAT at this stage in my ww career.

They just aren't evident because you aren't with me when I'm shooting in the gym.
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10-16-2014 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DoUEvenLift?
I'm not going to lie - the only game I remember from you besides this was a mishmash were you a villager in and retaliation shot a ~clear villager in ITAs because he shot at you and were blasted post-game for it

But that was a long time ago I think so you seem to have reached past my level of maturity

I appreciate the thought and I will keep this in mind
Who are you?

What is your actual name cory?
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10-16-2014 , 10:47 PM
Cory: fwiw I did take a break after that game. I also went out of my way in subsequent games with Dwetzel to apologise and discussed with him our meta and what happened with him #yoloing me and me snapshooting back at him.
That was obviously not one of my greatest moments.

But I think I have only subbed out 2-3 times, I think I have been mislynched as a villa whilst here 3 times, I think I have only once been modkilled for a night post.

I have made some bad mistakes - like the one you talked about, I made a bad vig one night of Ashington consensus(v) one game as well, I spent 800+ posts tunnelling a villager once that lost us the game.

I have managed to get into 2-3 big meta/controversies.

But I have never consiously ever sabotaged a village or a wolfpack.

Given how many games I have played over 5+ years I think thats a pretty good record for conduct in werewolf.

So - it is upto you whether you take my advice or not. I do not think that just throwing back my record in my face - is an attitude that demonstrates to others that you acknowledge any fault or are likely to change your behaviour in future. Which is disappointing to be frank.
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10-16-2014 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
Who are you?

What is your actual name cory?
My name is cory lol
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10-16-2014 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
So - it is upto you whether you take my advice or not. I do not think that just throwing back my record in my face - is an attitude that demonstrates to others that you acknowledge any fault or are likely to change your behaviour in future. Which is disappointing to be frank.
I sincerely wasn't trying to throw your record in your face - I thought you were giving very solid advice and I appreciated it

I've made mistakes before and I'll probably make them again, I've taken long breaks, and it's comforting that you know what it's like to make a mistake as well and talk from experience

I appreciate that, don't think I'm being sarcastic

As awful as the zdye vote was I tried my best to go out of my wolf range as much as possible afterwards, it was a dumb mistake and I regretted it immediately

Just was having a bad moment IRL as well and it compounded

I've been playing for 5-6 years and I think in non-turbos this was ~second every mislynch, so I don't usually take them well

I apologized and clearly meant it, I remain meaning it, I took responsibility for this loss and will be taking a long break from ww

The reason I /ined the other game is mostly because I had a friend from another forum sign-up and I wanted to play with him and help him acclimate to the forum cause he's looking for a new home and I typically regard POG as the best ww forum that exists anywhere
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10-16-2014 , 11:16 PM
ok, accepted.
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10-19-2014 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Digger it may not be out in the open and evident but I'm constantly working on my game. I'm constantly rereading old games and trying to soul reads wolves etc etc

Even games I'm not in I'll take the player list and enter then in random. org, I'll put all the names in a hat and draw out of it, I'll throw darts at the dartboard, I'm asking the online magic 8 ball if player x is a wolf etc etc, I'll randomly pick a player and try to envision how they'd react if I just called them a wolf and tunneled them relentlessly.

So rest assured I'm still doing the things that got me to be considered the GOAT at this stage in my ww career.

They just aren't evident because you aren't with me when I'm shooting in the gym.
this post is amazing.
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10-19-2014 , 12:46 AM
for so many reasons
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10-19-2014 , 07:45 PM
Bump for EOD confusion
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10-19-2014 , 07:57 PM
Votes from post 1911 to post 3245
Night in 0:03:44

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VotesLynchVoters
8 grant2 younguns87 (37), zdye724 (64), baudib1 (87), DWetzel (47), Nolder (55), ihcjay (145), FranFran95 (126), mucksandgravs (138)
4 zdye724 Montecore (103), grant2 (77), Mor_Tilt4mePls (51), Gamer Dude (93)
1 Nolder ReddBoiler (74)
1 Gamer Dude TheBrokenATM! (116)
1 baudib1 monstrman (84)

:00 good :01 bad
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10-19-2014 , 08:06 PM
lol tom
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10-19-2014 , 09:29 PM
lol
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01-13-2023 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
pretty sure fran and baudib are gonna get lynched a lot after this one

good job guys
Leo this turned out not to be true.

Note: this game is hilarious if you just read the final day and postgame.
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