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01-30-2015 , 12:05 PM
yeah, I'm not precisely sure why that would require a modkill here, except for the part where if you make a post in a game that's required to be deleted because you're an idiot that can easily be compared to deleting your own post

I'm not going to argue it though

I said it half jokingly in the other game's postgame but really guys, it's not that hard to just not talk about ongoing games and I am all for any punishment that anyone can think of for morons who do so
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01-30-2015 , 12:11 PM
Myrologue was right about muttigers.
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01-30-2015 , 12:14 PM
We probably need a WW infraction point system

And the grievance thread reopened obv
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01-30-2015 , 12:15 PM
Who killed me? btw.
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01-30-2015 , 12:15 PM
The sk did

Well probably anyway
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01-30-2015 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Myrologue
Who killed me? btw.
Sup
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01-30-2015 , 12:28 PM
God dammit monte. You should have trusted me to find more scum.

I WANTED TO LIVE
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01-30-2015 , 12:33 PM
general thoughts follow:

i mostly like c9++, it's fun to have to piece together the setup over the course of the game. it's also a nice and small/manageable advantage for wolves to be able to know the full setup before villagers.

having said that, there is a little too much variation i think in various setups to have it be completely balanced. e.g. last game with 2 doctors, no seers, no gf, 3 wolves with 1 rb, i felt like the setup was very much pro wolf. this game felt much more pro-village. only having 2 wolves makes it extremely difficult to play (as wolf), and the advantage of a gf doesn't really make up for having an extra wolf, especially since in a number of setups there will be no seer, effectively making the gf vanilla. also a village rb basically acts as a wolf-peeker, so having a village rb which is jsut one B is often more pro-village than even a full seer which takes two village pr slots (CC).

i don't really have a solution and i dont even know if other people agree with me. my off the cuff solution would be to replace the gf in 2 wolf setups with 2 vanilla wolves.
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01-30-2015 , 01:25 PM
gg monte

thanks for the game tom
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01-30-2015 , 01:28 PM
MONTLEBERRY BOO-KINS!

just ftr this is his SECOND win as SK, what a boss
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01-30-2015 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
general thoughts follow:

i mostly like c9++, it's fun to have to piece together the setup over the course of the game. it's also a nice and small/manageable advantage for wolves to be able to know the full setup before villagers.

having said that, there is a little too much variation i think in various setups to have it be completely balanced. e.g. last game with 2 doctors, no seers, no gf, 3 wolves with 1 rb, i felt like the setup was very much pro wolf. this game felt much more pro-village. only having 2 wolves makes it extremely difficult to play (as wolf), and the advantage of a gf doesn't really make up for having an extra wolf, especially since in a number of setups there will be no seer, effectively making the gf vanilla. also a village rb basically acts as a wolf-peeker, so having a village rb which is jsut one B is often more pro-village than even a full seer which takes two village pr slots (CC).

i don't really have a solution and i dont even know if other people agree with me. my off the cuff solution would be to replace the gf in 2 wolf setups with 2 vanilla wolves.
meh

yes, the 2 wolf setups kinda suck for the wolves, a little

as a bonus there's basically no chance there's any kind of a seer in the game (notwithstanding really rare rands), so they have that going for them, and with only two wolves it's harder to make connections so in that way it becomes quite a bit of a fox hunt
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01-30-2015 , 01:34 PM
I'd have two wins as SK too if I ever got to rand cool roles

(also I played bad and didn't clear Kaze clearly enough by saying I was RBing him n2 like I did, so probably not)
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01-30-2015 , 01:40 PM
i was a ninja once
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01-30-2015 , 01:44 PM
I agree with Xkf re: the role set
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01-30-2015 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
Monte!! How is the wifeacore??

I'm so happy you're in this game. Unless you're a serial killer in which case we're in trouble.
Ship the cookies.

I can't believe you jokers tried to lynch the guy who had the game cracked wide open with his 2nd post.
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01-30-2015 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
Ship the cookies.

I can't believe you jokers tried to lynch the guy who had the game cracked wide open with his 2nd post.
I definitely rechecked the roleset before I responded, just to make sure you couldn't have actually peeked me.
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01-30-2015 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
meh

yes, the 2 wolf setups kinda suck for the wolves, a little

as a bonus there's basically no chance there's any kind of a seer in the game (notwithstanding really rare rands), so they have that going for them, and with only two wolves it's harder to make connections so in that way it becomes quite a bit of a fox hunt
welp

anyway great job monte

i felt xkf and I had a huge uphill battle the whole time with this lineup you guys were quite villagery. i sort of think the modkill hurt us a little bit but i understand why it happened. with 2 wolves it was just really tough the whole time and then after monstr outed he peeekd a wolf we knew we were prob gg unless kaze was exactly the SK. seemed like a tough game to win no matter how we played. i tried my best to reverse spew fran and spew xkf v but to no avail
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02-01-2015 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I guess the main thing I'm confused about is why that necessitated a modkill in this game
Now this game has ended maybe someone can explain this.

What effect did it have on this game that made a modkill the correct option? How was this game affected by that information?

I can see how it could have affected the other game. If someone from there was reading this they could have seen it and known who the wolves are.

But players in this game knowing the wolf team in a previous game does not give anyone any advantage, so the modkill is kind of confusing.

Unless it was just as a form of punishment for being dumb. Although that does not really make sense to me either as it was probably more punishing to the village as a whole rather than to the people who were modkilled.
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02-01-2015 , 06:39 PM
well, one might reasonably ague that you made a post in this game thread that had to be deleted, and deleting posts in the game thread is a modkill offense

I'm also OK with it being punishment for you being dumb, and make no mistake everyone who was punished for your stupidity is both OK with that, and acutely aware that you got us punished because you were dumb, and we'll have our pound of flesh for it
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02-01-2015 , 07:19 PM
Just think there could have been another way maybe of dealing with it.

The post did not have to be deleted, just edited. I know that's not optimal but it could have been done.

I totally brainfarted about the other game still going and I was just so sure about grant being a villager I just wanted to make sure he was not lynched. Guess I achieved that in a way lol
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02-02-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
MONTLEBERRY BOO-KINS!

just ftr this is his SECOND win as SK, what a boss
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Originally Posted by mutigers
welp

anyway great job monte
Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by The Moocher
i felt xkf and I had a huge uphill battle the whole time with this lineup you guys were quite villagery. i sort of think the modkill hurt us a little bit but i understand why it happened. with 2 wolves it was just really tough the whole time and then after monstr outed he peeekd a wolf we knew we were prob gg unless kaze was exactly the SK. seemed like a tough game to win no matter how we played. i tried my best to reverse spew fran and spew xkf v but to no avail
I thought you played really well, and if you don't get peeked I think you'd have had a ton of equity. I can definitely imagine the wtf moment when you opened up your PM and saw that you only had one tammate, but at least it was xkf. You guys did a pretty good job decoupling yourselves from each other, and I feel like you could have conceivably won that game a non-trivial portion of the time. Cool set-up.
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02-02-2015 , 01:54 AM
Muti is moocher's alt?

Anyway, i caught muti day 1 so all you people who said I was a wolf.

Last edited by Myrologue; 02-02-2015 at 02:22 AM.
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