Forum Change Suggestions for New Mods

[Alrighty Roo]

Originally Posted by BASaint

is systolic british too? jfc. my country.

No but he has (is?) moved (moving?) to the Orkney islands.

Edit: My pony isn't feeling it today, too close to Easter. I guess that's why he's slow.

[Systolic]

I'm moving within the next 2 months

[atakdog]

Originally Posted by CPHoya

I'm talking about on POG. Let me try again.

I think you are conflating my personal preferences about POG interactions and WW play with what I believe would benefit the forum. I'm not trying to enforce standards of play, and I'm not trying to force anyone to "play to win" by my definition. That was an entirely different conversation. To be clear, I DO think POG plays soft, but that's got nothing to do with my modding ideas. If a consequence of the WWI&GCT is competitive games with less strife, wonderful, but that's not the intent or a goal.

They are related. It by its very nature would encourage people to be harsh with others, because otherwise no one would ever say anything in the thread. I believe that would spill over into werewolf games, and ultimately into other threads.

It's not the biggest thing in the world, and I could even be wrong that it will happen. But I do believe the road you're looking to pave leads to an atmosphere wherein niceness is less valued than it now is. Maybe that is not itself your goal, and to the extent I said or implied as much I withdraw it, but that is what I meant about "get[ting] you way".

[well named]

I definitely have no interest in increasing the level of meanness

[BASaint]

damn orkney

its hella windy there

not my cup of tea

[CPHoya]

The chief point is that I don't want, at all, in any way, to legislate how people play WW, I think that's abundantly clear and was settled some time ago (?).

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by well named

I definitely have no interest in increasing the level of meanness

I think being mean to people is perfectly appropriate sometimes

Like BAIDS needs people to be mean to him so he gets the point that his opinions are retarded and irrelevant

[BASaint]

Originally Posted by BASaint

atak,

I am not capable of convincing you guys of anything because I am seen as an outsider with little WW experience. Regardless of my manner, you guys would not be interested in what I have to say. Please dont pretend that this is not 100% the case. Go look at the initial responses to my OP if you are not convinced.

The only way I was going to get my ideas debated properly was to get a fair and free discussion of ideas going, something that POG was lacking before I made my thread.

Furthermore, about your ideas of what is 'un POG-like', well, you're falling into the same arrogant stance as TL did earlier. You do not get to decide on your own what is 'un POG-like'.

atak i'd like a response to the first part of this post when you're ready.

[CPHoya]

So atak I think where we're differing is that you experience POG currently as "nice" whereas I experience it as passive-aggressively unpleasant.

[exec771]

Systolic you follow any sports by any chance?

[well named]

Originally Posted by Systolic

I think being mean to people is perfectly appropriate sometimes

Like BAIDS needs people to be mean to him so he gets the point that his opinions are retarded and irrelevant

I pretty strongly disagree with you on that, not just specifically in this case but as any kind of general rule about how to have a conversation (or even an argument) on this forum

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by exec771

Systolic you follow any sports by any chance?

yep

[atakdog]

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Have you read the posts about the thread that were made today? It's not what you're saying, it's designed so it can't be. . .

If I have missed something relevant, then maybe it doesn't make sense now. I am going from the impression I have formed over the past couple days of what you (et al) want to accomplish with it.

I may also be taking it too seriously because there appears to be significant support for making you a forum moderator, and that would have much larger consequences in this regard; to some extent I may be guilty of conflating these issues. I'm pretty concerned about the whole thing, and admit I may have missed some details.

[TheDean1]

Originally Posted by atakdog

is someone who's trying to make meanness more acceptable.

I think referring to our notion as condoning "meanness" does horribly misconstrue the intentions of the people who want to SE-ize the place.

For instance- if I am eating a meal with you and you are chewing with your mouth open and make unpleasant noises, and I politely ask you to stop, is that mean?

Or if you say something that I deem to be rude and I inform you that you are being an arshole mingler and I would appreciate it if you kindly ceased to act toward me in that manner (key distinction from calling you an arshole mingler), is that mean?

I embrace the truth like a mother****er. I like people who are receptive to the truth since I can be open and honest with them. If somebody ever does something that peeves me I try to inform them in the least mean way possible. The whole grievances thread has nothing to do with being mean and everything to do with keeping it real instead of suppressing our occasional ill will toward one another.

[Alrighty Roo]

wn is a nice guy, everyone likes him. I think there is a connection.