Is the rule that if you don't make cut downs by the prescribed date that you rand a player to drop? Or do you just drop your latest draft pick?

If you don't like the rules put it up to a vote BEFORE it becomes a personal issue of your own.

We played by theses rules for the entirety of this leagues history if you had a problem with it before this year you had plenty of time to voice it.

I don't really see this as the offseason but I guess that is open to interpretation. Would have to look back to last couple of years to see how we handled it before I made any rash decisions.

If you want to be a stickler to the rules I should have cut your entire draft for failing to cut down to 27 by the time I woke up on the 2nd which was clearly at 9:33am. I'm sure once we iron all this out I will go back and cut those teams who failed to cut down for them.

Rules stipulate that we must have rosters down to 27 3 days prior to the start of the season. 3 days prior to the start of the season was 8:30pm on Sunday. As far as I can tell, there are only 2 teams that didn't make this deadline, and that is rice rice baby and countdown timer.

Off-season in fantasy terms normally refers to last game (or cutdown date at end of season) to the end of the draft. Once the draft is over we're in-season and IR is allowed. At least that's the rules we've used in the other league and that's what this was based on.

This is why we should be using rules that mirror the NFL's for Dynasty Leagues.

IMO (and only IMO), clearly the off-season for fantasy purposes ends the second the draft starts....but Bird has a point even if he is presenting it in his typical condescending tone.

Every team should not have more than 27 players. Either roster pickups aren't allowed and the two teams mentioned were never trimmed to 27 players, or roster pickups are allowed. For a team to have 28 players means their either picked someone up or never trimmed down to 27. No onee can start the season with more than 27 players when the rules clearly state that every roster but be down the 27 3 days prior to the start of the season.

This is how I've ran it in every league. But the rule is ambiguous. In every league I run there are people on IR because season starts before cut downs are due. But the point is fair.

And this is why. Season doesnt end the second the fantasy bowl ends. You don't need IR and cut downs done immediately when there are no games remaining.

Just like season starts before games actually start.

The cut down date was based off the "start of the season" which OTI interpreted as the first game, which is tomorrow night. Thus, the season, according to previous interpretations, has not started.

I dont see how you can say the red and then say the blue.

Every league should have clear start/end dates. We should be voting on this ASAP.

My dates would be something like Day after the NFL Super Bowl =end
End of Rookie draft = beginning. (so 27 man roster due 3 days before draft starts)
Cut down date x days before NFL season kicks off (x=3 is good)
Allow waiver pickups from Beginning of Season to same "x" day above.

Just my quick thoughts.

Agree with J.D.

The underlined part is my biggest issue. I don't see how on the one hand, chim et al, you can say we are "in season" for the IR rule, but on the other hand say we are not "in season" and not allow waiver pick ups.

I think its not fair that I have to cut down to 27 and I'm not allowed to pick up a kicker before the start of the season, but you are allowed to carry 28 people and use the IR that is only allowed to be used in season.

Either we say the season hasn't started so free agency is closed as is the IR, or the season has started and the IR can be used and free agency is open.

I don't think we can have it both ways.

Also, even without any type of clarification, I think the rules make it pretty clear that the roster should be down the 27 total players before the start of the season, and you shouldn't be using the IR to dodge this rule.

We are in season for waiver pickups, they process the Wednesday after the last game ends. Just so happens its a few weeks after draft. You should be able to submit them now, they just don't process. Not trying to be snarky, but that's how Id define in season. FCFS pickups are always only allowed between Wednesday after previous games and before kickoff of following game. That part is pretty clear.

I'd be in favor of more clearly defined dates, though. And support more clearly defined IR situation which is ambiguous. Id probably even vote for IR being only usable after cut downs. I do agree what Bird is saying is not necessarily fair and we should revisit IR placement. I do not agree with post draft pre game waiver action and will always vote against that change. Want to ensure a starting kicker? Draft another.

I'm coming around to this thought process, for sure.